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#1 Snarf

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 11:50 AM

Was in my legal ethics class today and the entire class is about the ethics of roleplaying and adopting particular underlying epistemologies. The entire class was about whether roleyplaying causes you to "drink the kool-aid" and become unethical advocates (e.g. do prosecutors start to see everyone as a crook? do public defenders get off on getting bad people off? etc). 

 

And all I could think about was how many times I had this debate in college. 

So if you ever needed reminder 134819438298 that debate matters, it's literally a central concern at the highest levels of law. 


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Posted 13 February 2018 - 07:30 PM

I think Maury wants to buy this forum from you just fyi
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Posted 13 February 2018 - 09:00 PM

I think Maury wants to buy this forum from you just fyi

Snarf isn't the owner
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Posted 17 February 2018 - 08:23 PM

I'd be interested in the books you read in that class that concluded that roleplaying is in fact bad


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Posted 21 February 2018 - 02:51 PM

I'd be interested in the books you read in that class that concluded that roleplaying is in fact bad

It's both too generic and too specific at the same time -- it's too specific to law and legal precedent on ethics (rather than broader questions of morality) and really skims the surface of the question (which was why debate was so useful: because I had memorized 2NC blocks to go to). 

 

That said, the book is The Legal Profession: Ethics in Contemporary Practice by Ann Southworth and Catherine L. Fisk


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Posted 23 February 2018 - 09:37 PM

Update: Markman claim construction in patent law is ENTIRELY a topicality debate. It's literally "what do the words in this patent mean, and how do we know, and what are the standards for knowing."

 

JFC debate is law is debate.


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