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#1 CynicClinic

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Posted 16 February 2017 - 09:27 AM

I've seen quite a few Texas debaters on this site lately - so, who qualified for UIL State this year?


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Posted 16 February 2017 - 05:13 PM

Unfortunately, me. Since I'm being forced to go, I'm going to aim for late elimination rounds I guess.


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Posted 16 February 2017 - 06:13 PM

Dude my LD district isn't till april so here's hoping.


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WHO ON HELL IS THIS FUCK BAUDRILLARD? BALSAS 06 [BALSAS is an interdisciplinary journal on media culture.  Interview with Art Group BBM, “on first cyborgs, aliens and other sides of new technologies,” translated from lithiuanian http://www.balsas.cc/modules.php?name=News&file=print&sid=151] JCH-PF

Valentinas: We all know that Jean Baudrillard did not believe that the Gulf War did take place, as it was over-mediated and over-simulated. In fact, the Gulf War II is still not over, and Iraq became much more than just a Frankenstein laboratory for the new media, technology and “democracy” games. What can we learn from wars that do not take place, even though they cannot be finished? Are they becoming a symptom of our times as a confrontation between multiple time-lines, ideologies and technologies in a single place? Lars: Actually, it has always been the same: new wars have been better test-beds for the state of art technologies and the latest computer-controlled firearms. The World War I already was a fully mechanized war where pre-robots were fighting each other and gassing the troops. And afterwards, the winners shape the new world order. Olaf: Who on hell is Baudrillard? The one who earns money by publishing his prognoses after the things happen? What a fuck, French philosophy deals too much with luxury problems and elegantly ignores the problem itself. It’s no wonder, this is the colonizer’s mentality, you can hear it roaring in their words: they use phrases made to camouflage genocide. I went to see that Virilio’s exhibition "Ce qui arrive" at Foundation Cartier in 2003. I was smashed by that banal presentation of the evil of all kinds: again, natural catastrophes and evil done by man were exposed on the same wall, glued together with a piece of "theory". There you find it all, filed up in one row: the pure luxury of the Cartier-funded Jean Nouvel building, an artwork without any blood in its veins, and that late Christian philosophy about the techno-cataclysm being the revenge of God. Pure shit, turned into gold in the holy cellars of the modern alchemists’ museums. The artist-made video "documents" of the Manhattan towers opposed to Iraqian war pictures: that’s not Armageddon, that’s man-invented war technology to be used to subdue others. And there is always somebody who pushes the buttons, even when the button is a computer mouse some ten thousand kilometers away from the place where people die, or even if it is a civil airplanes redirected by Islamists. Everybody knows that. War technology has always been made to make killing easier. And to produce martyrs as well. Janneke: Compare Baudrillard with Henry Dunant, the founder of the International Committee of the Red Cross. Dunant was no philosopher, he was just an intelligent rich man in the late 19th century. But his ideas went far more in the direction where you should hope to find philosophers as well. He experienced war as a "randonneur": he passed by, he saw the suffering and the inhumanity of war. And he felt obliged to act. Apart from the maybe 10 days he spent on the battlefield, on the beautiful meadows in the Europeans Alps, helping wounded people to survive, as a complete medical layman he decided to do something more sustainable against these odds. He knew that his efforts couldn’t prevent war in general, but he felt that he could alter the cruelty of reality. And he succeeded in doing it. No wonder that in our days we find the most engaged people to support the TROIA projects intention in Geneva, where they are still based. And they are not only doing their necessary surgeon’s work in the field: they are as well fighting with the same energy on the diplomatic battlefield.

 

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Posted 16 February 2017 - 06:13 PM

Unfortunately, me. Since I'm being forced to go, I'm going to aim for late elimination rounds I guess.

Just, you know, late elims at state. nbd right benny?


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WHO ON HELL IS THIS FUCK BAUDRILLARD? BALSAS 06 [BALSAS is an interdisciplinary journal on media culture.  Interview with Art Group BBM, “on first cyborgs, aliens and other sides of new technologies,” translated from lithiuanian http://www.balsas.cc/modules.php?name=News&file=print&sid=151] JCH-PF

Valentinas: We all know that Jean Baudrillard did not believe that the Gulf War did take place, as it was over-mediated and over-simulated. In fact, the Gulf War II is still not over, and Iraq became much more than just a Frankenstein laboratory for the new media, technology and “democracy” games. What can we learn from wars that do not take place, even though they cannot be finished? Are they becoming a symptom of our times as a confrontation between multiple time-lines, ideologies and technologies in a single place? Lars: Actually, it has always been the same: new wars have been better test-beds for the state of art technologies and the latest computer-controlled firearms. The World War I already was a fully mechanized war where pre-robots were fighting each other and gassing the troops. And afterwards, the winners shape the new world order. Olaf: Who on hell is Baudrillard? The one who earns money by publishing his prognoses after the things happen? What a fuck, French philosophy deals too much with luxury problems and elegantly ignores the problem itself. It’s no wonder, this is the colonizer’s mentality, you can hear it roaring in their words: they use phrases made to camouflage genocide. I went to see that Virilio’s exhibition "Ce qui arrive" at Foundation Cartier in 2003. I was smashed by that banal presentation of the evil of all kinds: again, natural catastrophes and evil done by man were exposed on the same wall, glued together with a piece of "theory". There you find it all, filed up in one row: the pure luxury of the Cartier-funded Jean Nouvel building, an artwork without any blood in its veins, and that late Christian philosophy about the techno-cataclysm being the revenge of God. Pure shit, turned into gold in the holy cellars of the modern alchemists’ museums. The artist-made video "documents" of the Manhattan towers opposed to Iraqian war pictures: that’s not Armageddon, that’s man-invented war technology to be used to subdue others. And there is always somebody who pushes the buttons, even when the button is a computer mouse some ten thousand kilometers away from the place where people die, or even if it is a civil airplanes redirected by Islamists. Everybody knows that. War technology has always been made to make killing easier. And to produce martyrs as well. Janneke: Compare Baudrillard with Henry Dunant, the founder of the International Committee of the Red Cross. Dunant was no philosopher, he was just an intelligent rich man in the late 19th century. But his ideas went far more in the direction where you should hope to find philosophers as well. He experienced war as a "randonneur": he passed by, he saw the suffering and the inhumanity of war. And he felt obliged to act. Apart from the maybe 10 days he spent on the battlefield, on the beautiful meadows in the Europeans Alps, helping wounded people to survive, as a complete medical layman he decided to do something more sustainable against these odds. He knew that his efforts couldn’t prevent war in general, but he felt that he could alter the cruelty of reality. And he succeeded in doing it. No wonder that in our days we find the most engaged people to support the TROIA projects intention in Geneva, where they are still based. And they are not only doing their necessary surgeon’s work in the field: they are as well fighting with the same energy on the diplomatic battlefield.

 

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Posted 16 February 2017 - 08:05 PM

Just, you know, late elims at state. nbd right benny?

yo I'm in 5A, my competition is just Lindale. I just need to avoid being bottom seed and I'm golden. I'm hoping all the traditional judges just vote on the impact card in my second scenario on aff, and neg will just be a lot of T. UIL loves that shit fam.


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I wonder if I actually understand half the arguments I go for, or if judges are just confused and think I'm right because I sound confident in my explanation...


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Posted 16 February 2017 - 09:17 PM

yo I'm in 5A, my competition is just Lindale. I just need to avoid being bottom seed and I'm golden. I'm hoping all the traditional judges just vote on the impact card in my second scenario on aff, and neg will just be a lot of T. UIL loves that shit fam.


But lasa
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#7 CalculusBC

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Posted 16 February 2017 - 10:18 PM

But lasa

fair. MS is an issue. I've heard mixed reviews of MV tho


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Posted 16 February 2017 - 10:20 PM

fair. MS is an issue. I've heard mixed reviews of MV tho


Also two Lindale teams to my knowledge
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Posted 17 February 2017 - 12:04 AM

i heard bowie knocked out somebody and qualled. also hendrickson pw. also lasa and lindale are gnna win it all. McWhorter and Wyatt are super fking good now so watch out for them.


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Posted 17 February 2017 - 05:55 AM

i heard bowie knocked out somebody and qualled. also hendrickson pw. also lasa and lindale are gnna win it all. McWhorter and Wyatt are super fking good now so watch out for them.

I hope you are right. They were pretty good competition last time we debated, and +1 that I got scouted by Kate Richey from Texas that round.

 

Edit: worth mentioning that Hendrickson is a 6A team.


Edited by SpontaneousCombustion, 17 February 2017 - 05:56 AM.

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Posted 17 February 2017 - 02:45 PM

fair. MS is an issue. I've heard mixed reviews of MV tho

i mean sahill and cameron (MV) have their bids so they're pretty spoopy


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WHO ON HELL IS THIS FUCK BAUDRILLARD? BALSAS 06 [BALSAS is an interdisciplinary journal on media culture.  Interview with Art Group BBM, “on first cyborgs, aliens and other sides of new technologies,” translated from lithiuanian http://www.balsas.cc/modules.php?name=News&file=print&sid=151] JCH-PF

Valentinas: We all know that Jean Baudrillard did not believe that the Gulf War did take place, as it was over-mediated and over-simulated. In fact, the Gulf War II is still not over, and Iraq became much more than just a Frankenstein laboratory for the new media, technology and “democracy” games. What can we learn from wars that do not take place, even though they cannot be finished? Are they becoming a symptom of our times as a confrontation between multiple time-lines, ideologies and technologies in a single place? Lars: Actually, it has always been the same: new wars have been better test-beds for the state of art technologies and the latest computer-controlled firearms. The World War I already was a fully mechanized war where pre-robots were fighting each other and gassing the troops. And afterwards, the winners shape the new world order. Olaf: Who on hell is Baudrillard? The one who earns money by publishing his prognoses after the things happen? What a fuck, French philosophy deals too much with luxury problems and elegantly ignores the problem itself. It’s no wonder, this is the colonizer’s mentality, you can hear it roaring in their words: they use phrases made to camouflage genocide. I went to see that Virilio’s exhibition "Ce qui arrive" at Foundation Cartier in 2003. I was smashed by that banal presentation of the evil of all kinds: again, natural catastrophes and evil done by man were exposed on the same wall, glued together with a piece of "theory". There you find it all, filed up in one row: the pure luxury of the Cartier-funded Jean Nouvel building, an artwork without any blood in its veins, and that late Christian philosophy about the techno-cataclysm being the revenge of God. Pure shit, turned into gold in the holy cellars of the modern alchemists’ museums. The artist-made video "documents" of the Manhattan towers opposed to Iraqian war pictures: that’s not Armageddon, that’s man-invented war technology to be used to subdue others. And there is always somebody who pushes the buttons, even when the button is a computer mouse some ten thousand kilometers away from the place where people die, or even if it is a civil airplanes redirected by Islamists. Everybody knows that. War technology has always been made to make killing easier. And to produce martyrs as well. Janneke: Compare Baudrillard with Henry Dunant, the founder of the International Committee of the Red Cross. Dunant was no philosopher, he was just an intelligent rich man in the late 19th century. But his ideas went far more in the direction where you should hope to find philosophers as well. He experienced war as a "randonneur": he passed by, he saw the suffering and the inhumanity of war. And he felt obliged to act. Apart from the maybe 10 days he spent on the battlefield, on the beautiful meadows in the Europeans Alps, helping wounded people to survive, as a complete medical layman he decided to do something more sustainable against these odds. He knew that his efforts couldn’t prevent war in general, but he felt that he could alter the cruelty of reality. And he succeeded in doing it. No wonder that in our days we find the most engaged people to support the TROIA projects intention in Geneva, where they are still based. And they are not only doing their necessary surgeon’s work in the field: they are as well fighting with the same energy on the diplomatic battlefield.

 

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Posted 17 February 2017 - 04:35 PM

I hope you are right. They were pretty good competition last time we debated, and +1 that I got scouted by Kate Richey from Texas that round.

 

Edit: worth mentioning that Hendrickson is a 6A team.

why does 6a matter


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Posted 17 February 2017 - 07:41 PM

why does 6a matter

Because this is a UIL thread. 6A schools debate in 6A division, while 5A schools only debate other 5A schools in 5A division. Therefor, Hendrickson could be the best team in Texas and they would still never affect LASA's chance, Lindale's chance, or my chance of breaking and succeeding in elims. 

 

Are you from outside of Texas, or are you at a private school such as Greenhill?


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Posted 22 February 2017 - 10:14 AM

Looks like I'll be judging for the tournament this year - at least, on the 1A-3A days. 4A-6A remains to be seen. Maybe I'll see some of you around?


Edited by CynicClinic, 22 February 2017 - 10:15 AM.

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Nonegfiat. (2017, June 18). China VDebate- TheTrashDebater(Aff) v. Nonegfiat(Neg). Retrieved June 18, 2017, from https://www.cross-x....atneg/?p=939106

 

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Posted 22 February 2017 - 12:22 PM

what if people just stopped doing uil debate


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#16 CynicClinic

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Posted 22 February 2017 - 03:03 PM

what if people just stopped doing uil debate

Why would they do that?


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Nonegfiat. (2017, June 18). China VDebate- TheTrashDebater(Aff) v. Nonegfiat(Neg). Retrieved June 18, 2017, from https://www.cross-x....atneg/?p=939106

 

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Posted 22 February 2017 - 04:02 PM

Another Princeton team and I will be competing at state in 4A.


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Posted 22 February 2017 - 09:32 PM

Why would they do that?


The better question is why wouldn't they
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Posted 22 February 2017 - 10:11 PM

The better question is why wouldn't they

School admins and board members think UIL is important. Gotta sell your soul in some stock debates in order to get funding for bid tournaments.


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Posted 22 February 2017 - 11:04 PM

School admins and board members think UIL is important. Gotta sell your soul in some stock debates in order to get funding for bid tournaments.


That's the only valid defense imo
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