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#1 jp3

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Posted 15 February 2017 - 10:03 AM

So guys, I am finishing my first novice year, and want to know if anyone can relate.

My record was this through all of my tournaments I went to.

3-1

4-1

1-3

1-1-2 (2 ties fml)

3-1

 

The tournaments where I go 3-1, 4-1,3-1 I have a partner who I boss around. control. The other 2 where I went 1-3, 1-1-2. I had a partner who was really good. Does anyone else do really well when they have a partner they can control?

 

Also, what exactly is next years topic on education?

 

 

and, should I move to varsity?

 


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#2 baudrillbabe

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Posted 15 February 2017 - 02:17 PM

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So guys, I am finishing my first novice year, and want to know if anyone can relate.

My record was this through all of my tournaments I went to.

3-1

4-1

1-3

1-1-2 (2 ties fml)

3-1

 

The tournaments where I go 3-1, 4-1,3-1 I have a partner who I boss around. control. The other 2 where I went 1-3, 1-1-2. I had a partner who was really good. Does anyone else do really well when they have a partner they can control?

 

Also, what exactly is next years topic on education?

 

 

and, should I move to varsity?

No, stay in novice all four years of your debate career. By senior year it will be like playing chess against a toddler.  


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#3 masterdebater123

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Posted 15 February 2017 - 03:58 PM

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Edited by masterdebater123, 15 February 2017 - 04:56 PM.

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#4 shreyasr711

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Posted 15 February 2017 - 04:20 PM

No, stay in novice all four years of your debate career. By senior year it will be like playing chess against a toddler.  

 

its hard to sense sarcasm online lol


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#5 jp3

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Posted 15 February 2017 - 05:34 PM

Like honestly what should I do. I get the sarcasm, but I need to know what I must do in order to become a good debater.


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Posted 15 February 2017 - 05:39 PM

Like honestly what should I do. I get the sarcasm, but I need to know what I must do in order to become a good debater.

 

tbh im not eligible to give advice, but baudrillbabe is good at this stuff


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Posted 15 February 2017 - 07:32 PM

So guys, I am finishing my first novice year, and want to know if anyone can relate.

My record was this through all of my tournaments I went to.

3-1

4-1

1-3

1-1-2 (2 ties fml)

3-1

 

The tournaments where I go 3-1, 4-1,3-1 I have a partner who I boss around. control. The other 2 where I went 1-3, 1-1-2. I had a partner who was really good. Does anyone else do really well when they have a partner they can control?

 

Also, what exactly is next years topic on education?

 

 

and, should I move to varsity?

Im a novice this year too, but our records are really different. I've done good at a lot of tournaments, but thats because I put in a lot of work. I work on debate like everyday, just do something. You seem to have some sort of partner issues, but having a reliable partner is really important cuz you can't do everything yourself, otherwise you should just do LD or something. Also, its not like you have a choice to stay in Novice next year... so get ready for varsity.


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Posted 15 February 2017 - 07:53 PM

So guys, I am finishing my first novice year, and want to know if anyone can relate.

My record was this through all of my tournaments I went to.

3-1

4-1

1-3

1-1-2 (2 ties fml)

3-1

 

The tournaments where I go 3-1, 4-1,3-1 I have a partner who I boss around. control. The other 2 where I went 1-3, 1-1-2. I had a partner who was really good. Does anyone else do really well when they have a partner they can control?

 

Also, what exactly is next years topic on education?

 

 

and, should I move to varsity?

Maybe I've been out of the activity for a while, but how do you tie in a debate?


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#9 shreyasr711

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Posted 15 February 2017 - 08:01 PM

Maybe I've been out of the activity for a while, but how do you tie in a debate?

 

Round robin - 2 ballots, 1 votes Aff, 1 votes neg? I'm guessing 


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#10 Nonegfiat

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Posted 15 February 2017 - 08:08 PM

Round robin - 2 ballots, 1 votes Aff, 1 votes neg? I'm guessing 

i didnt know there were novice round robins


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You don't need to have a crazy PoMo BaudTailleEuzeErrida K aff to win rounds.

 

 


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Posted 15 February 2017 - 08:18 PM

So guys, I am finishing my first novice year, and want to know if anyone can relate.

My record was this through all of my tournaments I went to.

3-1

4-1

1-3

1-1-2 (2 ties fml)

3-1

 

The tournaments where I go 3-1, 4-1,3-1 I have a partner who I boss around. control. The other 2 where I went 1-3, 1-1-2. I had a partner who was really good. Does anyone else do really well when they have a partner they can control?

 

Also, what exactly is next years topic on education?

 

 

and, should I move to varsity?

 

First thing, you should not have that kind of relationship with your partner. One partner should specialize in the aff (the 2a) and the other should specialize in the neg (the 2n). When the 2a asks the 1a "can you please extend x y and z in the 1ar because i wanna go for those", the 1a typically should do it. And vice versa for whatever the 2n wants to see happen in the block.

 

Past that, there should be no "control". You're a team. Your prep and ultimately your success comes from a collaborative effort. You can't and shouldn't be calling all the shots. It may work in novice but don't get used to that. You need your partner and you need them to be just as involved in things as you are.

 

Next year's topic is "Resolved: The United States federal government should substantially increase its funding and/or regulation of elementary and/or secondary education in the United States". No one really knows what the major arguments are gonna be. Right now most people anticipate a very k-slanted year, with shallow policy neg ground like the federalism DA and states CP. In terms of affs, people have been throwing around ideas: STEM education, special needs education, stuff like that, but no one really knows how it will play out

 

and yeah, as baudrillbabe said you'll have to move to varsity eventually. At least in my experience, the difference between novice and varsity is like night and day, so if you've got the basics down, you're better off making the switch sooner rather than later


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You don't need to have a crazy PoMo BaudTailleEuzeErrida K aff to win rounds.

 

 


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Posted 16 February 2017 - 07:04 AM

i didnt know there were novice round robins

 

We did a round robin, because like 10 teams dropped from the tournament.


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Posted 20 February 2017 - 07:29 PM

i didnt know there were novice round robins

The Glenbrooks this year had a jv and a novice round robin


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#14 Nonegfiat

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Posted 20 February 2017 - 07:40 PM

The Glenbrooks this year had a jv and a novice round robin

were they invitation only like a normal round robin?

 

That seems kind of pointless-- inviting the best novices in the country to compete against each other. Like just put them in varsity


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Posted 20 February 2017 - 07:48 PM

were they invitation only like a normal round robin?

 

That seems kind of pointless-- inviting the best novices in the country to compete against each other. Like just put them in varsity

Idk if it was invitation or not, but I agree that it was pointless- but then again most round robins are to a degree


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#16 AQuackDebater

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Posted 20 February 2017 - 08:20 PM

i didnt know there were novice round robins

Bruh SMarks

 

having a reliable partner is really important cuz you can't do everything yourself, otherwise you should just do LD or something.

Can confirm, this is why I'm now in LD. 


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Chaos, on 10 Mar 2017 - 7:21 PM, said:snapback.png

a crazy PoMo BaudTailleEuzeErrida K aff

You could just say French?

 


#17 Nonegfiat

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Posted 20 February 2017 - 08:59 PM

Bruh SMarks
 


I stand corrected
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