your logic reminds me of when I was in 'nam. Those Yiddish soldiers were crossing the gungook river when the Kong attacked. Red flares rose everywhere...we were ambushed...we fought our way through to the top of a hill, and held our ground, but to no avail Mark Goldstein just couldn't handle the rear gaurd, and they just slaughtered our men 1 by 1, and those Yiddish soldiers just sat there and watched. I think I could speak for myself that this file is a non-starter. You debaters are fools for talking about things you talk about, I think ya'll need to be assigned a mission to nam before you talk about your nuclear gobledegook.