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  1. I'm looking for anything having to do with EcoFem. Aff/Neg, links to anything, even A2, doesn't matter. Even if you can just point me to a good campfile it would be appreciated. My coach sent me on a damn fishing expedition and I have some good stuff, but with him its quantity over quality.
  2. I know Foucault doesn't say anything about this specifically, but he does give analysis of why normalization and exclusion is bad. I was just using him as an example. Also, unless the Aff can prove that they help EVERYONE IN THE WORLD that doesn't work. All we have to do is prove that they are excluding any one group and we are unique so they can't perm. Ok, well how about this: When the government gets to decide who lives and dies bad things happen. Almost the same argument, just slightly reworded.
  3. The argument I basically want to make is this: You save [these people (people in Africa, Asia, Native Americans or whatever)]. Do you solve for death/starvation/rape/etc entirely? No? You are saying that [these people] are more valuable than anyone else, and you are therefore creating a pseudo-normative circle of people to save and anyone outside that circle is screwed. The K is basically solve for everyone or solve for no one because when we pick and choose who lives and dies we play god. I know Foucault talked about this kind of stuff, but he mainly applied it to social institutions (psychology, prison, etc). Is there anyone who I could use and is this even an original/good argument?
  4. MMT is great when your stoned out of your mind, but then again, anything by the Beatles is great when your stoned.
  5. New Meshuggah album obZen if anyone wants it: http://www.mediafire.com/?tpxiantmn0g I have their entire discography if you want anything else.
  6. I am so sick and tired of previously good bands selling out or just sucking. Heres my list of the worst of the best. St. Anger - Metallica Issues - Korn* Damnation and a Day - Cradle of Filth* Scream Aim Fire - Bullet for my Valentine Avenged Sevenfold - Avenged Sevenfold Vol. 3: The Subliminal Verses - Slipknot Lost and Found - Mudvayne Lovehatetragedy - Papa Roach* Savior Sorrow - Mushroomhead Meteora - Linkin Park* Liberate - Disturbed* Eat Me, Drink Me - Marylin Manson Dark Passion Play - Nightwish Feel free to add yours, but lets not have this thread degenerate into 1) your music suxors! 2) What does it mean to "sell out?" or 3) They didn't sell out, moron! If you have something insightful to say besides just listing bands, then by all means, but please don't troll. * And all subsequent albums.
  7. Turn that. If they don't stop cutting then they bite every part of their harms, so thats a wash, and if they do stop cutting I'll grant the genocide, HR violations and nuclear war and outweigh it with the destruction of culture. Besides, human rights are a cultural thing anyway. Its only in the west, and only for about the past 400 years that we've come to the conclusion that each individual is intrinsically valuable and should be given rights, so its worse than a destruction of culture, its destroying a culture, and then replacing it with our own, which makes it moral imperialism. The minute you can definitively prove that what they are doing is 'immoral' you can change it, until then you are simply trying to make everyone follow a certain moral/cultural code which ends up destroying individuality and is a greater human rights violation than FGM.
  8. I would think that one of the best ways to go about it would be to first understand the philosophers, then see how they can be applied to debate. If you read Foucault for instance and are thinking "how can I make a K out of this?" then you are going about it backwards. The first step is understanding what an author is talking about outside of debate, then using it within a debate context. Lets use biopower as an example. As you begin to read/read about Foucault, ask yourself how this is relevant to your life outside of debate. Are you living in a Panopticon (once you begin reading him you'll know what I'm talking about)? Do you see biopolitics at work? Once you do this, you can begin to see how people use biopower in arguments and know what Foucault has said about it. Once it has sunk in and you begin to see the state as using the "protection of life" as a justification in your everyday life, you can begin to go back and cut cards against such arguments, and when you see an argument that links to biopower/politcs, you can pull it out. This can indeed be time-consuming, but I believe its a necessary part of running a K. If you grab a biopower campfile and start running it having no idea who Foucault is, you will end up looking like an idiot. I know this seems like common sense (know what your talking about before you run it), but I've seen teams read K's and in CX they are asked "How does your K link to our case?" and they are totally confused. The other thing to know about K's is that they are not a cure-all. Not every case everyone reads will link to a K, and if you do like a lot of teams and just run one K over and over and become a one-trick pony you will get stomped. K's should be saved for when they are necessary and that would be one of the first things I would explain to people. The final thing is know a basic history of philosophy. You don't need to be an expert on Kant, but its good to have at least a very basic understanding of the big names: Kant, Descartes, Hegel, Nietzsche, Heidegger and others and know how each influenced those who came after them. When Nietzsche talks about the "Will to Power" its good to know that he was influenced by Schopenhauer's "Will to Live" and what Schopenhauer meant by that. Again, it doesn't have to be in-depth, and no one expects you to write a dissertation on it, but that knowledge helps build the logical links so when you do run a Nietzsche K, and the other team asks how you can justify X, you can say "Well, because Kant said Y, and therefore we can conclude X" or something like that. If you have any questions about a specific theory/philosopher then ask away and you will probably get a prompt and helpful response, but I would first try reading for yourself. The philosophers I would personally start with would be Descartes and Kant because they both revolutionized the way we think and influenced almost everyone after them. Just my $.02, Good luck.
  9. How was it? They're not my fav band, but I heard they put on a decent show.
  10. Wow, if this is what you got from my post then you really need to re-read it. First of all, this thread is about music that reminds you of philosophy, not "music YOU LIKE that reminds you of philosophy." I personally don't listen to Manson, Korn, Slipknot, SOAD or some others I listed. I've heard their music, and when I do it reminds me of Nietzsche's anti-religion and Overman principals, Sartre's hopelessness or even Queer theory. If you believe that I'm oversimplifying these philosophers then so be it, I'm just saying that when I hear this music it REMINDS me of them, not that the music has anything to do with the philosophies themselves per say. Besides, most of the philosophers I listed are very angst-ridden and do talk about problems in this world, and so are/do the songs. Whether you like it or not, the correlation can be made. I'm not going to go through each individual philosopher and give a 3 page explanation of what they said just to link it to a song, I'm taking an overarching (and admittedly simplified) theme from their thoughts and seeing that a song/artist REMINDS me of this theme.
  11. Cradle of Filth before they sold out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZATxvMUDgo Stupid Fanvid, but great song Mathcore at its finest http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-5AGRtfBrg What would metal be without sacrilege? ... And now for something completely different http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gnFbwRmkc4
  12. Just had to point this out, I'm 21 and out of HS, so I guess thats why I find neg repping for something like that immature. I'm currently on the college debate team and still help out my old HS, thats why I post here. Checked them out? I've seen them live 3 times and have all their cds (bought, not downloaded). Thanks for the advice. I'll be sure to check some of that out. Oh, and Kunzelman, I haven't seen you or anyone else in this thread defend with more than one or two lines their ideas, so why is that burden on me? Besides, you claim I boil everything down to "not fitting in." However, if you re-read my post, you'll find that the ONLY band I said that about was Korn, so did that hurt when you pulled it out of your ass?
  13. I have to say I'm not too impressed with this new season thus far (ok, only 2 eps in, but w/e). They need to stop with the social commentary and get back to episodes like "Scott Tenorman Must Die" and "A Merry Critter Christmas."
  14. Favorite album to get pumped: Iowa - Slipknot - Special mention: Nothing - Meshuggah Favorite chill/relax album: The Cold White Light - Sentenced Favorite technical album: XX - Mushroomhead - Special Mention: Mutter - Rammstein Favorite "Story" Album: The Black Halo - Kamelot (Faust) - Special mention: Cruelty and the Beast - Cradle of Filth (Bathory) Favorite Thinking Album: Lateralus - Tool Favorite album to fall asleep to: Consign to Oblivion - Epica - Special mention: Slipknot - s/t Favorite album to "get busy" to: Antichrist Superstar - Marilyn Manson Favorite album to headbang: Reign in Blood - Slayer Favorite overall: Midian - Cradle of Filth
  15. I think your last post, while good, was based on 2 misconceptions you (rhetorique) have about my post: it was based on individual moral relativism and I'm saying do absolutely nothing. My argument was based on cultural differences, not individual ones. You ask why they are allowed to say its ok, but you are not, but I say you are free to say whatever you want. Discourse between cultures (and individuals) on morality is a good idea. The US, the UN, or you as a person can certainly go into Africa and have a discussion with someone about why you personally believe that FGM, or anything else is wrong. There can be an open exchange of ideas and change may be brought about that way. Its when one country goes into another country and says that you CANNOT do this because we consider it morally wrong that I begin to have problems. For instance, FGM could never be practiced in America, because it is against the law. I don't give two shits if my neighbor thinks FGM is the greatest thing since sliced bread, as long as he doesn't actually do it. In these African countries, its not against the law. So is it our job or right to change their entire legal system (or whatever sibilance of one they have) just because we find the idea uncomfortable as a culture? Is that our right/duty? If so, where does this right come from? And why don't they have the same right to start pushing their system on us? It comes down to this: I don't personally believe FGM is right, morally, ethically or in any other way. The culture we live in reflects my views by a large majority. It comes down to what we do with that. I believe, and all I'm trying to say is, we cannot use hardpower of any sort when something as shaky as morality is concerned. Discourse is fine, and in fact I encourage it, but to be quite honest our morality system, which is based on individual rights is an extremely recent development. Its only been since the Enlightenment that the concept that each individual has certain rights that are intrinsic to them, no matter of status, has been here. They have lived by this code of ethics for thousands of years, and I dare say it worked before we came and fucked their world up. Who are we to destroy something that well established because we don't think its a good idea? Its the same as the Native Americans. The true nature of that once great culture has been replaced by a mockery. What happened to them was a tragedy, and (callous as this may seem) I'd rather FGM continue than see that happen to Africa. Did I cover everything? If not please let me know and I'll try to better explain/better see your arguments.
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