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  1. I'm voting on the war, climate change/energy, health care, foreign policy, continuation of social programs, and to a lesser extent the economy (which is kind of screwed up either way at this point).
  2. Musharraf resigns as Pakistan president By ZARAR KHAN, Associated Press Writer2 hours, 27 minutes ago Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf announced Monday that he will resign, just days ahead of impeachment in parliament over attempts by the U.S.-backed leader to impose authoritarian rule on his turbulent nation. An emotional Musharraf said he wanted to spare Pakistan from a dangerous power struggle. "I hope the nation and the people will forgive my mistakes," Musharraf said in a televised address largely devoted to defending his record. Musharraf dominated Pakistan for years after seizing power in a 1999 military coup, making the country a key strategic ally of the U.S. by supporting the war on terror. But his popularity at home sank over the years. But his influence has faded steadily over the past year. He quit the pivotal post of army chief in November and his resignation was widely forecast. Washington and European capitals will hope his removal will let the civilian government focus on terrorism and the country's economic woes, though Musharraf's exit could also trigger a struggle to replace him. Pakistan's stock market and currency both rose strongly on hopes that the country was bound for political stability. Television footage showed groups of people celebrating in the streets in several towns across Pakistan, some of them firing automatic weapons into the sky. In his hour-long address, Musharraf said he would turn in his resignation to the National Assembly speaker Monday. It was not immediately clear whether it would take effect the same day. Mohammedmian Soomro, the chairman of the upper house of parliament, was poised to take over in the interim. It remains an open question whom parliament will elect to succeed Musharraf, partly because the ruling coalition has vowed to strip the presidency of much of its power. There is speculation that both Asif Ali Zardari and Nawaz Sharif, the leaders of the two main parties, are interested in the role. However, neither has openly said so. It was also unclear whether Musharraf would stay in Pakistan or go into exile. After inspecting a guard on honor outside his hulking white marble palace in the capital, a pokerfaced Musharraf stepped into a black limousine and left the building — perhaps for the last time. Chaudhry Shujaat Hussain, head of the main pro-Musharraf party, said Musharraf would live in Islamabad, where he owns a farmhouse on the outskirts. Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi said leaders of the ruling coalition would discuss later Monday whether to prosecute Musharraf in court on the impeachment charges. Briefly, his political foes put those issues on the back-burner and got on with celebrating. "It is a victory of democratic forces," Information Minister Sherry Rehman said. "Today, the shadow of dictatorship that has prevailed for long over this country, that chapter has been closed." In the northern city of Peshawar, a crowd of people danced to drum beats and embraced at an intersection. "It is very pleasing to know that Musharraf is no more," said Mohammed Saeed, a shopkeeper among the crowd. "He even tried to deceive the nation in his last address. He was boasting about economic progress when life for people like us has become a hell," he said, because of economic problems that include runaway inflation. Many Pakistanis blame the rising militant violence in their country on Musharraf's use of the army against militants nested in the northwest. His reputation suffered fatal blows in 2007 when he ousted dozens of judges and imposed emergency rule. His rivals won February parliamentary elections and have since sought his ouster. Musharraf, who has been largely sidelined since his rivals came to power, finally yielded after the coalition finalized impeachment charges against him and threatened to send a motion to Parliament later this week. The charges were expected to include violating the constitution and gross misconduct, likely in connection with the ouster of the judges and the declaration of emergency rule. A defiant Musharraf, seated in an office between two national flags, listed the many problems facing Pakistan, including its sinking economy and a chronic power shortage. He said his opponents were wrong to blame him for the mounting difficulties and suggested they were going after him to mask their own failings. "I pray the government stops this downward slide and takes the country out of this crisis," he said. Allies and rivals of the president said talks had suggested that Musharraf might quit in return for legal immunity from future prosecution. Sharif's party insists he should be tried for treason, which carries a maximum punishment of death. "The crimes of Musharraf against the nation, against the judiciary, against democracy and against rule of law in the country cannot be forgiven by any party or individual," its spokesman Ahsan Iqbal said Monday. Qureshi would not say whether Musharraf might be granted a "safe exit" — speculation has focused on whether he might go into exile in Saudi Arabia or Turkey. "That is a decision that has to be taken by the democratic leadership," Qureshi, who is from the main ruling Pakistan People's Party, told Dawn News television. The ruling parties also came under immediate pressure from protesting lawyers to meet a promise to restore the ousted judges — a matter fraught with political calculations because of Sharif's vociferous championing of their cause. Law Minister Farooq Naek said both the means and the timing of their restoration remained open. The international response made clear how world leaders had moved on from their reliance on Musharraf to keep his nuclear-armed nation on its current, moderate track. Nations including British and Germany, who both have troops in Afghanistan and worry about al-Qaida plotting attacks on their soil from havens in Pakistan, urged the civilian government to bolster their security policies as well as Pakistani democracy. However, the Afghan government, which accuses Pakistan of secretly aiding the Taliban, could not resist a parting shot. Musharraf "was not someone good for Afghanistan," Interior Ministry spokesman Zemeri Bashary said, accusing him of being an ally of the United States in words only. A U.S. Embassy spokesman declined to comment after Musharraf's speech, referring calls to Washington. U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said Sunday that while Musharraf had been a "good ally," Washington was supportive of the new government and Musharraf's future was an internal issue. "Pakistan and the United States have a joint interest in fighting terror," Rice said on Fox News television. "That's what we're concentrating on, that and helping Pakistan to sustain its economy, to build its schools, its health. We have a broad Pakistan policy." ___ Associated Press Writer Asif Shahzad and Munir Ahmad in Islamabad and Riaz Khan in Peshawar contributed to this report. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080818/ap_on_re_as/pakistan
  3. Texas school district letting teachers carry guns 1 hour, 38 minutes ago A tiny Texas district will allow teachers and staff members to carry concealed firearms to deter and protect against school shootings when classes begin this month, provided the gun-toting employees follow certain requirements. The small community of Harrold in north Texas is a 30-minute drive from the Wilbarger County Sheriff's Office, leaving students and teachers without protection, said David Thweatt, superintendent of the Harrold Independent School District. The lone campus of the 110-student district sits near a heavily traveled highway, which could make it a target, he argued. "When the federal government started making schools gun-free zones, that's when all of these shootings started. Why would you put it out there that a group of people can't defend themselves? That's like saying 'sic 'em' to a dog," Thweatt said in a story published Friday on the Fort Worth Star-Telegram's Web site. Barbara Williams, a spokeswoman for the Texas Association of School Boards, said her organization did not know of another district with such a policy. Ken Trump, a Cleveland-based school security expert who advises districts nationwide, said Harrold is the first district with such a policy. Trustees approved the policy change last year. For employees to carry a pistol, they must have a Texas license to carry a concealed handgun; must be authorized to carry by the district; must receive training in crisis management and hostile situations; and must ammunition designed to minimize the risk of ricocheting bullets. Officials researched the policy and considered other options for about a year before approving the policy change, Thweatt said. The district also has other measures in place to prevent a school shooting, he said. "The naysayers think (a shooting) won't happen here. If something were to happen here, I'd much rather be calling a parent to tell them that their child is OK because we were able to protect them," Thweatt said. Texas law outlaws firearms at schools unless specific institutions allow them. It isn't clear how many of the 50 or so teachers and staff members will be armed this fall because Thweatt did not disclose that information, to keep it from students or potential attackers. ___ On the Net: Harrold Independent School District: http://harroldisd.net/ http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080815/ap_on_re_us/gun_toting_teachers;_ylt=ApUhtUuXKn6x9TPxIUTpCvhH2ocA
  4. Well, if I remember, Interplanet Janet wasn't clad in a full-length skirt. Seriously, though, when I see pictures of Del Martin and Phyllis Lyon (who are both octagenarians by now) getting married, I think, wait, this is what they're afraid of? Old ladies making their commitment official? http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/Same-Sex-Marriage-Issues/ss/events/wl/061003cagaymarriage/s:/ap/20080614/ap_on_re_us/gay_marriage_out_of_staters
  5. Does this race take place on a racetrack of any sort? (Meaning a set hard surface for the purpose of racing, not just a trail or whatever). Does it take place on a trail? Do the jockeys and horses actually move through space as well as time?
  6. Because of this: And because we get presidential candidates making empty promises every four years.
  7. 3 in Ohio guilty of plot against US troops in Iraq By JOE MILICIA, Associated Press Writer1 hour, 27 minutes ago Three Ohio men were convicted Friday of plotting to recruit and train terrorists to kill American soldiers in Iraq, a case put together with help from a former soldier who posed as a radical bent on violence. Mohammad Amawi, 28, Marwan El-Hindi, 45, and Wassim Mazloum, 27, face maximum sentences of life in prison. Prosecutors said the men were learning to shoot guns and make explosives while raising money to fund their plans to wage a holy war against U.S. troops. The federal jury in Toledo returned its verdict after three days of deliberations. U.S. District Judge James G. Carr did not set a sentencing date, said acting U.S. attorney Bill Edwards. "Today's verdicts should send a strong message to individuals who would use this country as a platform to plot attacks against U.S. military personnel in Iraq and elsewhere," said Patrick Rowan, acting assistant attorney general for national security, in a written statement. "This case also underscores the need for continued vigilance in identifying and dismantling extremist plots that develop in America's heartland." Mazloum's attorney, Mo Abdrabboh, said he was preparing an appeal. "It's been a long, long trial," Abdrabboh said. "We're disappointed, obviously. ... We respect that the jury has spoken, but (Mazloum) has maintained his innocence from the beginning of this." Messages seeking comment from the other defense attorneys were not immediately returned. At trial they claimed that the three defendants, who all lived in the Toledo area, were manipulated by the government's star witness, Darren Griffin. The undercover FBI informant and former Army Special Forces soldier recorded the men for about two years beginning in 2004 while they talked about training in explosives, guns, and sniper tactics. They often met in their homes and at a tiny storefront mosque where they prayed together. Defense attorneys noted that Griffin was involved in all conversations the prosecution presented to the jury, and that there was no evidence of telephone conversations or e-mails dealing with the alleged plot among only the defendants. Griffin won the trust of the men by posing as a former soldier who grew disenchanted with U.S. foreign policy who was now intent on violence against America. Prosecutors said even Griffin's family had been under the impression that he had become a radical. Griffin said most people at the mosque shunned him and that no one raised any threats until El-Hindi began talking about kidnapping Israeli soldiers. Amawi, Griffin said, asked him to help him train two recruits from Chicago for holy war. According to one secret recording made by Griffin, Amawi said he was troubled by the loss of life in New York in the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, but he quickly added: "Killing Americans in Iraq is OK." Griffin testified that he twice traveled to Jordan with Amawi and also taught Amawi and Mazloum how to shoot guns. El-Hindi told Griffin, according to recordings heard in court, that he knew two cousins who were eager to receive "jihad training." Griffin asked El-Hindi if he was recruiting for jihad. "Oh no, I just want to take these two," El-Hindi answered, adding that he wanted to take care of them for their families. The two Chicago-area cousins — Khaleel Ahmed of Chicago and Zubair A. Ahmed of suburban North Chicago — have pleaded not guilty to conspiring to kill American soldiers and face trial next year. Amawi, El-Hindi and Mazloum were convicted of conspiring to kill or maim people outside the United States, including military personnel. Amawi and El-Hindi were convicted of distributing information regarding explosives to terrorists. Defense attorneys said Griffin lied and manipulated the defendants by putting words in their mouths so that he could stay on the government payroll. Attorneys for the men also questioned how the three men could have been involved in a conspiracy when they never practiced shooting guns together or watched training videos together. Griffin testified that the three gathered in the same place just once during the two years he investigated them. He also said that he never saw e-mails from the men that talked about plotting to kill soldiers. Amawi and El-Hindi are U.S. citizens, and Mazloum came to the U.S. legally from Lebanon. El-Hindi was born in Jordan, and Amawi was born in the U.S. but also has Jordanian citizenship. They had blended easily into the city's thriving Muslim community. Mazloum was a college student who helped his brother run a used-car lot. Amawi once worked at a bakery. And El-Hindi was a married father of seven. All had moved to the Toledo area only in recent years. Still, the arrests stunned the city's Arab-American community, which has been rooted in the city for generations and produced actor Jamie Farr and entertainer Danny Thomas. ___ Associated Press writers Thomas J. Sheeran and M.R. Kropko in Cleveland and John Seewer in Toledo contributed to this report. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080614/ap_on_re_us/military_plot_trial;_ylt=Alp1LZ3Bo3lOAgXKk_mJs7VH2ocA Does anyone else wonder if they would have gone through with this if Griffin hadn't been involved? That doesn't excuse their actions, but still...
  8. I was kind of shocked. Wow. RIP tambien.
  9. Is one of the other people in this puzzle besides the whistler dead? Was the animal a mammal? Was the animal a bird? Was the animal an insect? Was the animal amphibious (meaning, does it live in water?)?
  10. Dennis Kuchinich. His life's been pretty interesting... and he's got an autobiography.
  11. This is interesting, because some kids in my English class did a project where they read the book The World Without Us, which looks at what would happen if all humans got eliminated and how the earth would deal with what we would leave behind. So, barring all of humanity getting wiped out tommorow, is there any way to reverse this?
  12. Whatcha gonna do with all that junk all that junk inside your trunk? I'm gonna get get get get you drunk Get you love drunk off my hump my hump my hump my hump my hump my hump my hump my hump my hump my lovely little lumps! Check it out! I drive these brothers crazy, I do it on the daily, They treat me really nicely, they buy me all these iceys, Dolce & Gabbana, Fendi & Madonna, caring they be sharing all their money, got me wearin fly, Brother I ain't askin, they say they love my ass in Seven jeans, True Religion, I say no but they keep givin so I keep on takin, and no I ain't takin, We can keep on datin, and I'll keep on demonstratin my love, my love, my love, my love. You love my lady lumps. My hump, my hump, my hump! My humps they got you! *She's got me spendin* Oh! Spendin all your money on me, and spendin time on me! *She's got me spendin* Oh! Spendin all your money on me, uh on me uh uh on me! Whatcha gonna do with all that junk all that junk inside that trunk? I'm gonna get get get get you drunk, get you love drunk off my hump! Whatcha gonna do with all that ass all that ass inside them jeans? I'm gonna make make make you scream, make you scream, make you scream! Cuz of my hump, my hump, my hump, my hump, my hump, my hump, my hump, my lovely lady lumps! Check it out! I met a girl down at the disco she said hey hey hey hey lets go! So I can be your baby, you can be my honey, lets spend time not money, Mix your milk with my Cocoa Puff, milky milky cocoa, Mix your milk with my Cocoa Puff, milky milky riiiide! They say I'm really sexy, the boys they wanna sex me, they always standin next to me, always dancin next to me, tryin to feel my hump hump, lookin at my lump lump, You can look but you can't touch it, if you touch it i'm uhh start some drama, You don't want no drama, no no drama, no no no no drama, So don't pull on my hand boy, you ain't my man boy, i'm just tryin to dance boy and move my hump, my hump, my hump, my hump, my hump, my hump, my hump, my hump, my hump, my hump, my hump, my lovely lady lumps, my lovely lady lumps, my lovely lady lumps, in the back and in the front! My lovin got you! *She's got me spendin* Oh! Spendin all your money on me, and spendin time on me! *She's got me spendin* Oh! Spendin all your money on me, uh on me, on me! Whatcha gonna do with all that junk all that junk inside that trunk? I'm gonna get get get get you drunk, get you love drunk off my hump! Whatcha gonna do with all that ass all that ass inside them jeans? I'm gonna make make make you scream, make you scream, make you scream! [these lyrics are found on http://www.songlyrics.com] Whatcha gonna do with all that junk all that junk inside that trunk? I'm gonna get get get get you drunk, get you love drunk off this hump! Whatcha gonna do with all that breast all that breast inside that shirt? I'm gonna make you work, make you work work, make you work! *She's got me spendin* Oh! Spendin all your money on me, and spendin time on me! *She's got me spendin* Oh! Spendin all your money on me, uh on me, on me! *INSTRUMENTAL BREAK*
  13. off the top of my head: Bright Eyes (Connor Oberst) Clutch (Neil Fallon? I think... anyways, they've gotten better with time) Jackson Browne Bob Dylan Ben Folds Bad Religion (both Graffin and Gurewitz wrote some good stuff)
  14. Favorite thing I've thrown into a round: "In the words of Yoda, there is no try! Their plan has to work!"
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