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Everything posted by IrnScrabbleChf52

  1. who is ladue sf? streid/?
  2. meh, shadow extending the 1nr doesn't really count
  3. haha, where'd the "!!!!!!" go? shouldn't it be "I knew!!!you had a sense of humor!!!!"
  4. amazingly, aamil is capable of writing on this forum in a legible manner
  5. I'll be judging on Friday for sure, possibly Saturday. My paradigm is now on the Judge Philosophy Wikispaces.
  6. also i'd like to point out that i remember when ladue had 3/4 teams in sems at this tournament (08). what is up ladue come on
  7. I'll back Shree up on this—my experience was in high school, but using the wiki/caselist to generate ideas and help jumpstart affs is one of the only ways you'll be competitive. Coming from a non national circuit team, we were able to perform competitively at nationals etc. because of this technique. From what I understand, this is, as Shree describes, a great way for a small/nonexistent program to get started and stay competitive.
  8. I'm not sure how I'm insulting them per se, merely commenting on/criticizing the strategy.
  9. the 2nr strat was horrendous imo.
  10. i'm gonna go out on a limb and call that for the aff 7-4.
  11. I don't think this is true whatsoever, most of the individuals I've coached, debated alongside, and debated against who've left policy due to speed have done so because they found themselves unable to compete and unable to do the required work. That's just anecdotal though. The people who thought speed was ridiculous didn't even do cx to begin with, and usually weren't very good at their chosen debate disciplines. Additionally, your claim that "they would be better off educationally doing some other activity than debate because it doesn’t prepare them for anything but college debate, and then nothing at all" is absurd. One of the only aspects of high school that prepared me for college proper (not college debate, I don't debate anymore) was policy debate, specifically circuit-style policy debate. Although I debated in Missouri where "traditional" style predominated, I found this style extremely boring and associated with arbitrary, ill-informed judging. Those individuals who "survive" this "extreme" type of debate are oftentimes the hardest working, toughest, most intellectually capable debaters out there, because yes, speed is hard. And by the way, I did adapt at tournaments like NFLs, because I liked to win. But those slow rounds in front of inexperienced judges were simultaneously soporific and torturous, like having a root canal in slow motion.
  12. Can you point out anywhere in any manual or rulebook where it says that? If so, I stand corrected. Have you ever been to nationals in extemp? In order to check whether people are illegally accessing the internet you'd have to constantly check every computer screen, it would be impossible. I agree that nfl should do what promotes the best competition, and if laptops work for you great. But I honestly think there's a reason why virtually no top tier competitors use laptops--because they don't actually give you any tangible advantage in extemp--paper files are just as fast, having thousands upon thousands of files is disadvantageous much of the time (esp. at nationals where the questions aren't very specific as a whole), and computers are much more fallible than paper. My point is that you don't actually need a computer because you should be able to win nationals with 4 expandos and some magazines.
  13. 1685 right now haha. and i've seen you search your computer jack, incredibly slow.
  14. Clearly your filing system isn't at maximum efficiency. Also, I'm not sure how your computer handles searching through like 20k page documents, but mine at least is relatively slow and pulls up irrelevant pages because it's searching in the text of each article too. Or if you had thousands of individual documents you could use your computers search engine, but again, it would be slow and pull up irrelevant pages. You'd be better off just imitating a paper filing system on your computer with folders, but clicking through each level would only be marginally faster than a filing system of maximized efficiency. If you can show me where the nfl has allowed laptops in extemp, not policy, I'll believe you. But the most recent manuals clearly indicate that they're not allowed in any event other than policy. See above, the question is of efficiency, searching through huge databases of news articles is a waste of time when you can just pick up the 3 magazines you need from the stack next to you and stand up and pull the file folder that contains your best articles on the topic area. The oversight burden is much larger because the potential for abuse is much larger. When they search through tubs they're mainly looking for illegally annotated indexes. They're pretty good about catching people using cell phones and the like because 99+% of competitors aren't using illegal devices, so those that are stand out. But with laptops, it would be so easy to just get on the internet, and detecting that would be nearly impossible. Even if you tried monitoring the local network activity, now you can just buy devices that provide mobile internet access. I honestly don't think that the nfl will allow laptops in any other event than policy debate for at least a few years, probably more.
  15. I completely agree that laptops should be allowed, particularly because of situations like yours, but I just don't think they give you any particular advantage. You should be able to and most people on the national circuit do perform with approximately 4-5 expandos of printed evidence at the very most. Both times I went to nationals in extemp I was definitely the exception rather than the rule with lots of tubs, and when I did extemp on the national circuit i traveled with about 4 expandos in one suitcase. Being able to search through thousands of files using a computer would be advantageous if the search for and utilization of those files occurred at the same speed as pulling paper files and using them by hand, but in my experience that never happens. Especially at the highest levels of extemp where the difference between an 11 minute prep sheet and a 9 minute prep sheet is the difference between 1st and 4th in a room, I think paper is still the way to go. And extemp at these highest levels is hugely dependent on scholarly journals and think tanks, so having a huge database of articles and searching through them is going to be less advantageous than having articles from Foreign Affairs, Council on Foreign Relations, and Policy Review, 4 simple news sources like NYT, WSJ, 2 books, and maybe a go to quick source like USNWR, USAToday, NPR Also, according to the most recent national tournament manual online (4-13-09) and district tournament manual (3-1-10) laptops are allowed in policy debate only at the national tournament and contingent on district approval in policy only at district tournaments. So you're wrong about that. Additionally, laptops at nationals in extemp proves an enormous oversight burden, since with 400-500 extempers in a room checking to see whether people are using the laptop in a legal manner would be impossible.
  16. unless things have changed dramatically in the past year, no one on the extemp. nat circuit uses laptops really. the one time I did at GMU, I realized why--in the very controlled frenzy of extemp prep, the laptop is a lot less efficient than a well-organized filing system, unless you write your prep sheet on the laptop too, which felt pretty unnatural/uncomfortable. I don't think the transition to laptops will really be made on the extemp circuit until a new generation of extempers gets trained from the beginning with the technology. Also, the extemp nat circuit involves a relatively lower travel commitment--most of the top extempers on the circuit only go to 5-6 tournaments outside their region each year: yale, glenbrooks, MBA if invited, extemp toc, ncfls maybe, nfls. some people choose to go to wake, st. marks, gmu, barkley, cal, upenn, but almost no one goes to all--it would be unheard of. . .so I'm just not sure that until it's impossible to stuff expandos into backpacks and suitcases for the occasional flight, the transition will be called for on the national level.
  17. Oral decisions are, I believe, technically not allowed in prelims at nfl nationals. I'm too lazy to go and quote your other text, but in reference to your story about a delivery oriented decision: Round 13, 3-0 loss, 2 of which were entirely delivery oriented decisions. Although they didn't explicitly characterize their decisions as delivery-based, the reasoning in their oral decisions indicated as much. ("You should have spoken more like the 'I have a Dream' speech") Oral decisions don't check back against "bad judging" (if delivery oriented judgments are "bad"). I think you overestimate the power that a few high schoolers' scrutiny has on a judge's sense of self-worth following a bad or difficult to justify decision.
  18. Oral decisions are pretty typical during nfl national tournament outrounds since the decisions are announced immediately post round after ballots are turned in. I believe it was Round 11 this past year, the other team argued with the judges during an oral decision for approximately 20 minutes. Their coaches even got involved and started arguing with the judges. Although I agree that in an ideal world, oral decisions would be ubiquitous in high school debate, the reality is that many high schoolers are not mature enough to handle oral decisions. Not sure whether many college students are either. . .
  19. so the bootleg wglf thing?
  20. Aojia this post is just embarrassing man
  21. Here's my short paradigm: I'm pretty much tab, though I definitely have different thresholds on different argument types/specific arguments. For example, it's going to take a lot more to get me to buy dehum good than nuke war bad, though cold drops are cold concessions to reiterate the much maligned cliche. I'll almost always vote for the team with the most offense on the flow. Topicality: Will evaluate it as competing interps unless instructed otherwise. I have a very low threshold on the topicality debate to pull the trigger neg in as much as the neg need not prove any real abuse (again, if aff argues otherwise and it goes unanswered, I'll use that model). Disads: I like generic disads as long as they're sufficiently unique. I don't like obviously empirically disproved impact scenarios. Counterplans: I tend to give the neg a lot of room on counterplan theory. I don't think that counterplan theory is usually a voter. I don't like noncompetitive counterplans. Ks: I dislike generic ks. The authors in which I'm best versed are probably D+G, Zizek, Nietzsche, and Heidegger. I'm also very familiar with postcolonial theory and epistemology criticisms. Performance: I'm a big fan of performance, though I'm not sure how I feel about it in a vdebate. I ran performance affs in high school, I think that the opposing team should probably counterperform just fyi. Theory: In real debates, theory usually becomes extremely muddled and difficult to evaluate. In vdebates, not so much. That said, I rarely find theory a compelling voter as much as a reason to discard a particular argument. Case: Case debate is essential. The aff plan should have some advocacy. Probably.
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