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  1. I would also agree with Enterprises second analysis of the Ubermensch, but what is also critical is that this necessary evolution in moralists is meant not to act upon the same reasoning that enlightenment inspired moralists do. Instead, as far as I can tell, he/she (for Nietzche, mostly he) the Ubermensch should do things because it desires to, every action should be affirming to its own being, not done simply out of guilt.
  2. I can send you the cites to an Aff we read on the Africa topic that had better lit than the UNTIF version if you want, but we used Scoular in 2004, I don't remember the rest of the cite
  3. Probably the Biopower K, although OBJ is fun, but only because nobody seems to answer it well, although I hate having to go for it because it kills my soul a little bit each time.
  4. Foucault doesnt even really make that analysis, and that is just a link of omission. the Aff is mandated by the res to help some people, why not do that and help others too. Plus, the perm, help everybody by doing Aff global is competitive and makes the Aff even better than it was.
  5. Sam is definitely right on the laziness of kids at the school in terms of fundraising. most kids expect ASB to pay for everything, but we don't get a ton of funding. A lot of programs seem to have the same problems. I would be interested in what that organization entails Sam. Could you post a website or some info. I think Andrew does have a point here. School boards don't seem to care about how much good can come of debate, which he especially can show, aka future dollars for GU. I dont know how, but the message needs to get out to people about why debate is important. It seems increasingly to be regarded as some nerd-off between kids without lives. While that may be true for the nerds (nothin but love for you two) most kids are pretty chill in the activity, and even more so in college. Schools would be willing, I think, to fund the program if A. they knew how beneficial the activity is for students and B. students could be motivated to join in larger numbers. First, just to make you feel old, I think Jon Voight's mother was my teacher in fourth grade. On a more important note, I didnt know that we were turning away kids, but the opportunity is lower because advanced and novice debaters are in one class, which is really hard for Stovern to deal with on top of another class added. The debate tradition is still alive at Mead, but only in a few kids that we pass it onto. it came to Andrew and I and we (hopefully) passed it onto Taylor and Kevin, who will eventually do the same after they get good. Overall, at least at Mead, I think that if we got some good interpers and other more entertaining events, some demos might spur some interest. most kids see debate as either too scholastic for them, which is ridiculous cuz is Micah can win rounds, anyone can. If we can show the ASB and other more influential organizations that kids are interested, they cant deny us, and if they do, maybe it is time to take another step and protest or petition or something. Whatever ends up happenin, debate looks to be in trouble in the GSL, and somethin needs to be done. On an unrelated note, this isnt fair! Kids might have gotten Africa (Good topic), Alternative Energy (okay topic), and then Space (OSM topic). We got screwed Andrew (except for Nat Service, I liked that)!
  6. I dont want this debate to end, but I found something for Mead (and any other) interpers to look at for potential scripts. I know this isnt policy, but I want good HIs again, I miss them http://corky.net/scripts/
  7. That panel was pretty epic
  8. Well Dak, some good points, but First, yes all the Affs are big, but that is okay. The Affs are generic enough that there will be case negs against all of them, and as to advantages that cant be beaten with DAs, if a nuclear war blows up our solar panels, how we gonna deal with an asteroid? DA turns case and wins on timeframe. That is why impact comparison exists. I already talked about CPs, that teaching is kind of a bitch and usually overcomplicates novices. But the lack of them in novice debate wont skew their perception. My novice year only one team rant the novice CP and we clowned them, later that year (at JV) we ran consult, but we never felt there was some bias or anything, we just looked forward to getting to run both arguments. On the kiritkal advantages, yes, every Aff can go kritiky, but some are more liely than others. Besides, with the kind of judging and argument level at novice, most of the time, nuke wars and other common DA impact scenarios will either be blocked out to turn case or wont be effectively outwayed by the K team. As to qualified judging, I think it is kind of ridiculous for bad decisions to cause someone to quit debate. There are a lot of amazing debaters from Kansas and Missouri and other places that deal with much worse judging than us and stick with the activity and become good college debaters. Yes we should hire good judging, but at novice that is a moot point, they generally get the slop that cant judge varsity. I dont really see your B point. Im not sure if it is that there arent coaches, or that colleges are hording them, you'd have to explain, though LC will likely agree with you. Im all for having tournaments earlier, but I dont think that would save debate. if anything, that is just more cost to already underfunded programs. What we need to do is reinvigorate the next group of kids to get into the program. If we have younger kids interested, schools will eventually allocate some funding, or parents will help.
  9. I have to agree with Sam on the case areas, they seem like good and educational Affs with a diversity of different advantage possibilities and a lot of legitimate negative literature that a lot of camps will have put out, which eases the strain on small varsity teams trying to provide for their novices. It may not seem like it at Mead, but there aren't a lot of programs left, just look at the GSL. 2 of the what, 5 schools participating at varsity will likely only have novice teams, and only about 3 will have varsity. We need more novices to stick, and having simpler Affs will make that happen. As for counterplans, I understand not wanting to have to teach the novices that concept because it is more complex than it seems and is usually botched by at least one team, which hurts both. I am sympathetic towards wanting the States CP (even though it isnt a great argument) but it is probably too great a strain on floundering programs.
  10. The other piece of us no longer attending the PLU tourney is that the judging began to really head downhill, so we don't bother going there to get screwed out of rightful victories. As for East Coast tournaments, Mead generally doesn't go much farther than Berkeley, if they even go this year. Only CV heads out that way, and that is at Harvard, I don't think anyone else goes with them, although U-high might.
  11. Fair point. I concede the question of whether animals use logic or not because, as you have pointed out, I don't know because I have not seen the world from that perspective. I wonder, though, if your argument contradicts the question of whether animals' ethics are based the same way in humans? Certainly I can't know for sure, but it is a fair argument to be made based on observation of behavior. How do you feel these two arguments interact?
  12. I dunno, Bruce took a pretty vicious kick from Kareem and did just fine. I'm gonna have to go with Bruce Lee, unless his opponent is the Fist of Death
  13. Sorry, I oversimplified. Animals learn from pain in the same way as we do. You train your dog, at least partially, through negative reinforcement. The behavior that brings pain (mental or physical) is bad, and eventually they stop the behavior once they are sure it is bad. Positive reinforcement, it occurs to me, also plays a role in the formation of ethics. if a behavior elicits pleasure (in the dog example, a "good dog" and a pat on the head), then the behavior becomes an accepted piece of the animal's ethical system. As to the logic question, this I will admit is a weaker point. I have never run into a scenario where the attempt to justify an ethic, which is what I interpret Met4physica's argument to be about logic, has occurred in the animal world. It is possible, and with an example I would easily concede the point.
  14. I do agree with the assertion that our systems of ethics are created by us, and are generally connected with the feeling of right and wrong. From an early age, we learn by what hurts us. Even death becomes a bad thing because it causes us mental and sometimes even physical strife. This might be a little oversimplifying but it stands that pain=bad, so our ethics are constantly evolving based on what causes us pain. We as people evolve, and we can either create new bad things from our new experiences, or erase old ones. In this case, there is no ethical rule per say, because ethics are far too fluid to be nailed down by one. Instead, there is a system of experiences that influences whether we feel bad or not. I would also argue that logic does not necessarily block out these feelings. Sometimes you still feel irrationally bad about something, even if your mind can justify it. Perhaps our logic is constantly trying to shrug off our immoral acts that cause us guilt. I don't know on that one, but there is still an element of, from what I understand of it, the mind/body/spirit connection. If we view ethics in this fashion, Levinas' argument of looking into the face of those we are about to kill is effective(ish). For instance, were I to look into the face of (I hate to invoke this example) say Hitler, I'm not going to feel bad, logically or otherwise, about killing him (I think, I've never actually tried this), but the case would hopefully be different were I to look into the face of an innocent, which could easily include "factory farm animals", like the calfs used to make Veal. As to animals being more intelligent, I would argue that animals have the same innate feelings about right and wrong, but they lack a logical piece to justify there feelings. They lack the balance that many humans achieve, or at least could achieve. As always, let me know if I am way off base.
  15. Pardon me sir, but that is Portland and Eugene. Here we still like to roast us some terrorist so ha, I guess. And Joe, if you think Spokane is boring, subtract everything but just the Northside and you have Salem. Woot! Will Mt Spo actually have varsity though, or just novice? I take CV no longer has a policy program?
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