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  1. how exactly do you feel that her work could be formulated into a debate position (critique or otherwise)?
  2. 1) FIFA rankings mean shit--US was ranked 5th or something ridiculous like that 2) All of you are overlooking Germany--they have the offense (Podolski, etc.) to kick almost anyones ass and their goalkeeper (Lehman) is almost as good as Kahn back in his hey-day. Plus, the home country advantage is undeniable--I'm actually in Germany right now and it's unbelievable how pumped people are.
  3. Penci: "however, hip hop culture is formed of a diverse group. not every hip hop artist/song has the same goal ("get yourself out of the hood, out of the ghetto.")." i never claimed that. my post outlines multple "goals" of hip hop--awareness, "get out the ghetto," artistry, etc. and certainly does not try to be totalizing on the goals of various groups of the hip hop movement. rather, it suggests a few possibilities while leaving the door open for others. "no one song had so large an affect on any movement within the hip hop culture that lyrics from that song can be used as evidence in support of an argument about hip hop culture as a whole." wrong. read some books on hip hop culture--authors (who are experts on this subject) routinely reference both song lyrics and how single songs have made visible impacts in the culture. "and on your representation of malcom x, i don't think it would be his position that sexist/homophobic hip hop is just fine because it's hip hop and that's what matters" why? warrants please. claims without warrants are a logical fallacy... "you ignore the alternative of hip hop that doesn't have those qualities." i'm not advocating this style of rap--in a perfect world there would only be hip hop that "doesn't have those qualities." the reality is that this is not the case--hip hop with "those qualities" has always been and will always be in hip hop--we need to deal with that, not construct imaginary worlds in which hip hop is "clean" so to speak. "critiquing sexist/homophobic hip hop doesn't mean the end of hip hop, it means the end of sexist/homophobic hip hop, but hip hop would still continue, and as a better force too." right, in a perfect world that would be the case. but that assumes that your little critique somehow manages to transform the entire music industry--good luck with that. "also, i think a perm of standpoint epistimology makes a lot more since than your argument." what the fuck is a "perm of standpoint epistemology"? don't use big words if you can't even spell then right. what does this even fuckin mean? david: i saw cage at the paid dues fest in la. that's some good shit. where are you going to school next year btw? oh yeah--btw: atmosphere is incredibly overrated and not that tight.
  4. hip hop is, first a foremost, a culture. it is a culture that started in post industrial nyc with breaking, tagging, and flowing and represented a unique artistic and emotional outlet for youths in inner-city neighborhoods. from a factual standpoint, it is a form of musical expression that consists of someone flowing (rapping) with beats beneath it, and more recently certain artists (rjd2, dj shadow, etc.) have done without the flow. at the same time, however, hip hop is so much more than that. at it's core, hip-hop is about awareness. similar to the tags on nyc trains that spread their messages as they drove through the city, hip hop is about spreading both messages and experiences. in one sense, listening to hip hop can make one more aware of the world around one as well as the individuals that comprise it. in the context of the debate community (or any primarily white, primarily affluent community) hip hop can serve as a crucial tool in helping individuals step outside of their bubble and learn about experiences and ways of being in the world that are radically different than their own. the easiest way to understand how powerful hip hop is would be simply to read read paulo friere's a pedagogy of the oppressed. unlike philosophy and academia which, while they are often focused on making individuals more aware of the world, these philosophers and academians are all writing from a relatively similar point of view: one that is relatively affluent. hip hop, on the contrary, comes from the point of view of the oppressed. the crux of friere's oft-cited argument is that changing the status of the oppressed must come the from oppressed themselves, since they are most familiar which the situation. and it is from this notion that hip hop gathers its ideology. hip hop, first and foremost, draws (even if unknowlingly) on critique as action (ala Foucault). at the most basic level, hip hop is critique--a critique of the status quo in a way that appeals to the masses, or at the very least, other individuals who are oppressed. it is founded on the hope that listening to a rap song that exposes certain experiences, or preaches a certain message, will change the way one thinks about a given issue and accordingly, the way one acts with regards to it. but hip hop has multiple functions for many people and to say that hip hop is purely critique, etc. is a misnomer. many complain about hip hop's misogynistic lyrics, sexism, reinforcement of racial stereotypes (via music videos and "n-bombs), to which we should respond the way malcolm x woulds "who cares--by any means neccessary." that is, by any means neccessary, get yourself out of the hood, out of the ghetto. when you cant step outside without being at risk, when you see your relatives addicted to crack and your friends shot, hip hop can be a tool. not neccessarily a tool of awareness, but as a way for the oppressed to change their current situation. sure this views change and success primarily in terms of money, but as dre says (i promise to limit myself to this one section of his verse): I moved out of the hood for good, you blame me? Niggas ain't made me if niggas they can't be. But niggas can't hit niggas they can't see. I'm out of sight, now I'm out of they dang reach. How would you feel if niggas wanted you killed? You'd probably move to a new house on a new hill. And choose a new spot if niggas wanted you shot ("The Watcher") sure, it would be better if getting out of the ghetto could be done without often materialist and sexist lyrics, but the fact is THAT IS WHAT SELLS, and that says a lot more about our society than it does about hip hop artists. commodification? commodification is key to preventing suffering sometimes. if its a capitalistic propaganda-esque shit, if it prevents suffering, death, "gets you out the hood," its worth it in my opinion. for those of you that have an interest in the political and otherwise nature of the hip hop, i would recommend the following: pedagogy of the oppressed, paulo friere (not about hip hop, but key to understanding it) black noise: rap music and black culture in contemporary america, tricia rose
  5. I'm working on a non-debate related project in which the concept of "false choices" is discussed. I remember Zizek discussing this notion somewhere. If someone could help me with [specific] cites and/or passages in which Zizek discusses false choices or the notion of the "double blackmail" that would be much appreciated. Thanks. --Ned
  6. does anybody care to articulate the details of how spanos links to this topic?
  7. Read this article: http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,18874034-601,00.html Follow this discussion: http://foucault.info/Foucault-L/archive/msg10054.shtml May be of interest to some.
  8. kritikingforlife

    U of O

    just to clear things up: we got mad love for the pnw down here. ignore everything steven says, hes a novice--you cant trust his kind. congrats to oak harbor on the tournament--they cleaned up - 1 ballot dropped the entire tourney aint bad. plus, it was fun going for k of t in the 2ar versus ospec. later. -ned
  9. kritikingforlife

    U of O

    polytechnic cm will also be attending--running racial profiling.
  10. kritikingforlife

    U of O

    but you must understand...lazar's bazar is so much more than a "hookah joint"--they also sell bongs, bubblers, dry pieces, pocket pieces, whippets, crackers, 20+ varieties of cigs (by the carton mind you), herbal x, herbal speed, brass knuckles, knives, probably stolen and/or illegal cds and dvds, and offensive t-shirts. it's got my name written all over it.
  11. kritikingforlife

    U of O

    polytechnic ss--immigration
  12. kritikingforlife

    U of O

    we'll be there. oh and does anyone know if the nasty rumor that lazar's bazar is out of business is true or not? (at least the headshop part)
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