ihsdebate 1035 Report post Posted July 17, 2005 What does the Iraq aff say? the story, at least for the one sdi 2 week is making, is that detention w/o charge of people in iraq jacks the legitamacy of the iraqi government and that we need to turn them over to them or else bad things will happen (que civil war, loss of sp, torture). I can't speak explicitly for all iraq cases though, this is just what SDI 2 week is putting out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Atheist- 10 Report post Posted July 17, 2005 How is that topical?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ihsdebate 1035 Report post Posted July 17, 2005 How is that topical?? well in my opinion its not, but curretly we're detaining people w/o charge in iraq and abusing them and the like, which undermines iraqi legitamacy, so we give the prisoners to the iraqis. yea i know there are massive authority problems here, but the lab leader picked the aff, we had no say in it. i'm not sure what the specific pt is, i could check though 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
senghasmic 70 Report post Posted July 18, 2005 Gonzaga put out the following evidence in the first wave: Aff: SAFE act Gitmo (policy) Gitmo (kritikal/nontrad) Record searches Mandatory Detention CSI Korematsu Neg: Negs for all of the above Terror DA Rights Malthus DA China HR relations DA Politics (SS and Judicial Nominations) XO CP Courts CP Terror Talk K Security K Biopower K The Gift K CRT K Framework file Topicality file Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ihsdebate 1035 Report post Posted July 18, 2005 SDI 2 WEEK WAVE ONE NEG STUFF: MORALITY TOOLBOX CRT ETHICS D/A CHINA HR D/A GENERAL SP D/A TERRORISM D/A FOUCAULT K IMMIGRANT DET. BAD D/A I'M SURE I'M MISSING SOMETHING BUT THIS IS ALL I CAN THINK OF OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lucasman 49936 Report post Posted July 18, 2005 Anybody know anything else about what's coming out of DDI? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marxist_Thinker 12 Report post Posted July 18, 2005 DDI generics, from Ned: human rights promo immigration da drug war da terrorism da emr/seperation of powers da rights kritiks politics agent cps critical minority studies (latino/hispanic, asian, intersectionality, etc) state of exception (shanahan's dirty hippie generic thats the same as always) CLS and CRT Judicial DAs Foucault His refernce to Shanahan is of course Bill Shanahan. out Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ihsdebate 1035 Report post Posted July 19, 2005 SDI 2 week affs Iraq torture Nseers federalism? extrfordinary rendition Asykum seekers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marxist_Thinker 12 Report post Posted July 19, 2005 From Ned the Macintosh/Powers lab at DDI is cutting gitmo, sale v. haitian, bell v. wolfish/cross-gender searches, and some sort of CIA intelligence aff He will contact me with everything, in about a week or so. all of the affs that is. out Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
homiejon69 49771 Report post Posted July 19, 2005 the ceren/mccarntey lab is cutting a geneva aff, racial profliling borders aff (critical), stop random searches at airports (racial profil good), dont ask dont tell, and possibly a buisness/corporation aff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marxist_Thinker 12 Report post Posted July 20, 2005 Wait so you are cutting a racial profiling good aff? and what is the business corporations aff? out Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
homiejon69 49771 Report post Posted July 20, 2005 Wait so you are cutting a racial profiling good aff? and what is the business corporations aff? out the racial profiling good aff is stoping "random searches" at airports, because random searches dont do shit and lead to ignorant guards racial profiling when they see arab-looking people and harrasing them, so instead of random searches we set up critera for searches that dont just have to do with race, but gender, race, age, sex, origin. i dont wanna talk about the business corporations aff Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Merkin Report post Posted July 20, 2005 DADT is way untopical. Just to let you know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedHead 821 Report post Posted July 20, 2005 does anyone know mich classics plantext for their internet privacy aff? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tears_for_fears 3 Report post Posted July 21, 2005 SDI 3 week affs 2 sections of patriot act (critical section 412, and 415) 2 versions of korematsu HIV exclusion Extraordinary Rendition Bell V. Wolfish Gitmo Federal Agency drug testing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JimmyEatWorld711 10 Report post Posted July 21, 2005 DADT is way untopical. Just to let you know.what's DADT? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmy_Page 878 Report post Posted July 21, 2005 what's DADT? Don't Ask, Don't Tell. The military's policy on homosexuality. And yes, it is topical, there are cards out there talking about people going through people's personal items to find evidence of suspected homosexuality. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
birdwing7 1115 Report post Posted July 22, 2005 That would make topical a plan banning searches of personal effects, but I don't see how it would make topical a plan banning DADT. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ihsdebate 1035 Report post Posted July 22, 2005 seriosly its topicality, not that big of a deal, as long as it has a decent cse for it being topical its fine, topicalities always going to be an issue so stop bickering over this and cluttering up this thread note to the mod: Can you guys please clean this forum up, there are a lot of useless stuff in here like questions about certain cases and rants about the topicality of a quecase i just think it will be more beneficial if this thread is made exclusive for what camps are putting out, if you want you can make a thread for that even though most of that stuff is adressed in threads alreaqdy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmy_Page 878 Report post Posted July 22, 2005 That would make topical a plan banning searches of personal effects, but I don't see how it would make topical a plan banning DADT. I'm not sure exactly what plan text is. It's probably vaguely topical if you ban DADT and unban gays in the military. There's a thread on it somewhere in here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
teenydude8 46 Report post Posted July 22, 2005 Don't Ask, Don't Tell. The military's policy on homosexuality. And yes, it is topical, there are cards out there talking about people going through people's personal items to find evidence of suspected homosexuality. 1. That doesnt mean crap, you need to find evidence saying the US has the authority to do that. If you can tell me a certain bill or court case which said that the US can search the people's items to find evidence they are gay, I'll believe your topical. But this seems rather unlikely since DADT specifically says "Don't Ask", implying there is probably no authority to seach. Just because a homophobe in the army is looking through his tent mates items in iraq doesn mean you can write an aff. 2. Wake Forest Policy Project's first aff was NAGPRA/Indian Graves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King of All Cosmos 3387 Report post Posted July 22, 2005 Cameron University: Advanced: Affs: Gitmo, Rendition, Housing Sweeps, Concent Searches. DAs: Politics, Crime, Hollow Hope, Judicial Activism, Terrorism. There's more in the other groups but that's all I know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deb8r 2 Report post Posted July 23, 2005 Did UNT 2 or 3 week make a Natives Aff? I think it might have a tribal graves adv or like a racism adv. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Danny Tanner 716 Report post Posted July 24, 2005 all the camps should also post links to where their evidence is for sale, if it is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
policy2A1N 44 Report post Posted July 24, 2005 Did UNT 2 or 3 week make a Natives Aff? I think it might have a tribal graves adv or like a racism adv. I dont think so Share this post Link to post Share on other sites