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I have some questions;

 

1. What is it?

 

2. How is it read in debate?

 

3. What is some good literature to read?

 

4. General opinions on the strength of the argument?

 

5. Any other queer identity Ks that I don't know about?  (I have heard of Q-Pess)

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Optimism is more vulnerable to a permutation than pessimism.

I was thinking more as a critical aff position.  My team and I would like to run some non - t affs, and for mine I kind of want to run queer optimism.

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I was thinking more as a critical aff position.  My team and I would like to run some non - t affs, and for mine I kind of want to run queer optimism.

Is this for the education topic? To me it seems like they'd also have a pretty good case for a topical version of the Affirmative.

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In general, I feel like optimistic criticisms are more compatible with the futuristic logic of policymaking than most other criticisms which tend to be quite pessimistic.

 

That said, I haven’t ever debated queer optimism. I would imagine that it’s relationship to q-pess is analogous to the relationship of Afrofuturism to afropess. All of your standard Q-pess answers should apply, and the ones that don’t apply indicate areas where the permutation or the TVA can solve, most likely.

 

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I forgot, your last question. Other kritiks related to queer theory— Preciado is a big one. Gender nihilism and trans pess / trans rage are also out there. But let’s be real, you’re engaging these arguments in one of two ways: you’re coming at it from either the left or the right. I don’t mean to presume your style, but I’m guessing you probably read 80% of your generic queer theory frontline on any one of these arguments, so I wouldn’t get too hung up on preparing specific strategies to each.

 

I don’t mean to be reductive or discourage genuine academic engagement. Obviously these are separate lit bases and it’s good to engage the nuances of each argument, but from a purely strategic perspective I don’t feel like the differences between them are that consequential.

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Uh- most queer optimism arguments simply indicate that pessimism is bad, however they don't always indicate that the state is good or what should we should be using- just that things can get better. Some theories like ballroom politics or USC BL's Haptic Healthcare aff are both good examples for this. Optimism does not lose to the tva or perm- it's not state good

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I forgot, your last question. Other kritiks related to queer theory— Preciado is a big one. Gender nihilism and trans pess / trans rage are also out there. But let’s be real, you’re engaging these arguments in one of two ways: you’re coming at it from either the left or the right. I don’t mean to presume your style, but I’m guessing you probably read 80% of your generic queer theory frontline on any one of these arguments, so I wouldn’t get too hung up on preparing specific strategies to each.

 

I don’t mean to be reductive or discourage genuine academic engagement. Obviously these are separate lit bases and it’s good to engage the nuances of each argument, but from a purely strategic perspective I don’t feel like the differences between them are that consequential.

 

Also- the differences between preciado, gender nihilism, and Halberstam's failure are huge- if you read generic answers vs anyone competent you'll get smacked

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Also- the differences between preciado, gender nihilism, and Halberstam's failure are huge- if you read generic answers vs anyone competent you'll get smacked

Well there you go. Take virumstein’s word over mine because I don’t actually know what I’m talking about

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Hey, I wanted to come back to this and answer this more in-depth, because the question makes the answer seem more simple than it really is. It all depends on what we consider to be pessimistic-

 

First, I'd like to start with a basic conceptualization of a few popular theories and concepts- 

 

1) The Anti-Social Turn- This is a term used that was largely started by an article by Halberstam describing "the anti-communitarian" aspects of much of modern queer theory. Here are a few theories and authors that support this:

 

Queer negativity and pessimism- Started primarily by Leo Bersani and Lee Edleman, these theories are the radical negativity destroy society concepts that most people think of when they understand negativity, more contemporary less transphobic readings than Edleman can be found in Baedan. 

 

Queer Failure- This was primarily started by Halberstam, and as Halberstam themself states, a negative movement. It simply says that modern ideas and conceptualizations of knowledge and knowledge production leave out the "stupidity, forgetting, failure, and illegibility". Halberstam says we should embrace those things and refuse that ideal of success. It's still negation- but with a bit more hope in it. 

 

 

2) Queer Community- Theories talking about the need for us to stick together, often with a bit more optimism involved: 

 

Ballroom Politics- Based on the book Butch Queens up in Pumps by Marton Bailey, affirmations of ballroom spaces endorse a community where we walk face, gather together, and care for each other. It's all about the community we can find together and how that enables both a form of self-care and love, and caring and providing for each other. 

 

Hapticality/Undercommons- Check out rounds from USC BL <3, but basically this is talking about holding each other up and caring for each other, remaining illegible, not relying on the state, and working together to build a better community- to quote Moten from USC's aff: "It’s not about who’s holding you down when you try to jay-walk; it’s about who’s holding you up. This is the question of hapticality. The police can’t hold what’s already held."

 

Munoz's optimism- Munoz in cruising utopia makes a lot of arguments about the need for community to deal with the violence queer people face, and says that that negativity is bad because it prevents that. I'd honestly read the book if I were you. 

 

3) The other kinda postmodern stuff: these can't be really be categorized very well (how queer), but I figured I'd list some authors:

 

Puar- Deleuzian, mainly about assemblages, read you DnG indicts if you have to, but honestly just cut puar indicts, her refusal of intersectionality in favor of assemblage theory is often criticized as anti-black. 

 

Preciado- Oh lord, this is hard to describe- talks about using hormones and other things to hack gender, read the book this would take forever to explain, something something pharmaporn. 

 

Winnubst- Winnubst is pretty cool, she bases her work on Bataille and embraces non-productivity, I would recommend Queering Freedom to anyone, if you need to answer it, you can read productivity good if you don't have much else. 

 

Alright well, I'm in class and ran out of time, I'll probably revise this later, anyone can PM me any questions, I'm not the end all be all on this, but I'll do my best. 

 

 

Reading list: 

 

Cruising Utopia by Jose Munoz (Optimism af) 

 

The Queer Art of Failure (Halberstam, honestly super good read)

 

Testo Junkie by Preciado (kinda hard to apply but pretty cool, not many read it) 

 

Queering Freedom by Shannon Winnubst (Bataille based queer theory, Greenhill EG and South Eugene LS read it)

 

Butch Queens Up in Pumps by Marton Bailey (super dope reading about the ballroom, check vids of Wake EF, round 3 vs Kansas was dope)

 

The Undercommons by Harney and Moten (not directly queer theory in the normative sense but great connections can be made) 

 

 

This is by no means complete- but I hope it was helpful <3

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