InterrogatinReality 1 Report post Posted March 27, 2018 Kansas KR wins the NDT and the copeland award. Thoughts and Reactions to this years NDT? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tommy949 449 Report post Posted March 27, 2018 (edited) This is the second year in a row that black debaters have won the NDT. Although Kansas did not unite the crowns, the environment of the ndt seems to be changing. In the early 2000s Louisville only made it to quarters. A decade later, they opened a doorway for black debaters to win the ndt. Simply amazing ! Edited March 27, 2018 by tommy949 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheTrashDebater 156 Report post Posted March 27, 2018 Also may I remark that this was a year of upsets. Harvard MS dropping in Semis along with a slew of other top teams dropping rather early in elims 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nonegfiat 640 Report post Posted March 27, 2018 Congrats to Kansas on an incredible season and an amazing tournament. The way they started this year with GSU and Kentucky it was obvious they were something special. Also Natalie Knez had an incredible tournament as well. Her speeches are just mind blowing, and it’s so awesome she got top speaker. Bernstein too, as a freshman having to give all those 1ARs against the best neg blocks in debate, just incredible. All around this was a really exciting NDT. I was rooting for Georgetown in finals and 4-3 is a rough margin for a decision but it’s hard not to be in awe of the sheer intellectual power of all of these debaters. To achieve anywhere near their level in my career is as much as I can hope for. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nonegfiat 640 Report post Posted March 27, 2018 Also may I remark that this was a year of upsets. Harvard MS dropping in Semis along with a slew of other top teams dropping rather early in elims I don’t think dropping in NDT semis to the Copeland winner counts as an upset. If you wanna talk about upsets, talk about Wake AW vs Michigan GW or Liberty HS vs Emory FG. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
monkeybusiness 6 Report post Posted March 27, 2018 This is the second year in a row that black debaters have won the NDT. Although Kansas did not unite the crowns, the environment of the ndt seems to be changing. In the early 2000s Louisville only made it to quarters. A decade later, they opened a doorway for black debaters to win the ndt. Simply amazing ! only one of them is black. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
monkeybusiness 6 Report post Posted March 27, 2018 Congrats to Kansas on an incredible season and an amazing tournament. The way they started this year with GSU and Kentucky it was obvious they were something special. Also Natalie Knez had an incredible tournament as well. Her speeches are just mind blowing, and it’s so awesome she got top speaker. Bernstein too, as a freshman having to give all those 1ARs against the best neg blocks in debate, just incredible. All around this was a really exciting NDT. I was rooting for Georgetown in finals and 4-3 is a rough margin for a decision but it’s hard not to be in awe of the sheer intellectual power of all of these debaters. To achieve anywhere near their level in my career is as much as I can hope for. why was she the 2a this year when she was the 2n previously? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
misrap354 16 Report post Posted March 27, 2018 why was she the 2a this year when she was the 2n previously? she double 2's 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tommy949 449 Report post Posted March 27, 2018 only one of them is black. Fine then should I say a non traditional performative blackness team Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AtlanticCoast 40 Report post Posted March 27, 2018 Fine then should I say a non traditional performative blackness team How is Kansas performative? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elmeryang00 134 Report post Posted March 27, 2018 she double 2's She takes the 2A only when they're against black debaters and/or certain elim rounds. Otherwise it's Katz. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tommy949 449 Report post Posted March 27, 2018 How is Kansas performative? Fine a nontraditional team Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tommy949 449 Report post Posted March 27, 2018 What I meant was this was the 2nd year in a row that nontraditional blackness teams won the NDT Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
monkeybusiness 6 Report post Posted March 27, 2018 she double 2's man how does a double 1 wander into ndt finals? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
monkeybusiness 6 Report post Posted March 27, 2018 She takes the 2A only when they're against black debaters and/or certain elim rounds. Otherwise it's Katz. wait were nat and q both double 2s? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tommy949 449 Report post Posted March 27, 2018 wait were nat and q both double 2s? No Q is a 2N and Katz is a 2A. Both Q and Katz debated for Kansas all 4 years Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
monkeybusiness 6 Report post Posted March 27, 2018 No Q is a 2N and Katz is a 2A. Both Q and Katz debated for Kansas all 4 years yeah thats what I thought Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tommy949 449 Report post Posted March 27, 2018 It seems like Katz was a very traditional policy debater before this year if you look at the wikis of previous years Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elmeryang00 134 Report post Posted March 27, 2018 yeah thats what I thought She's not the 2A full time... just for certain rounds such as against black debaters. For example, in this round against Wake EF - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tqh9-kQzML8&t=3141s - the video cuts out but you can see Katz giving the 1AC and hear Q clearly giving the 2AC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
monkeybusiness 6 Report post Posted March 27, 2018 It seems like Katz was a very traditional policy debater before this year if you look at the wikis of previous years idk if that's what he actually wanted to do, if he debated with q, he's probably a flex debater but flexed policy because i'ts ku 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Debate2000 61 Report post Posted March 27, 2018 @monkeybusiness actually it’s somewhat of the other way around. One of my friends that debates at KU said that in reality he wanted to stay policy but knew his best chance at winning came from going K. I guess it worked haha Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
monkeybusiness 6 Report post Posted March 28, 2018 @monkeybusiness actually it’s somewhat of the other way around. One of my friends that debates at KU said that in reality he wanted to stay policy but knew his best chance at winning came from going K. I guess it worked haha that's what i meant, sorry if i was unclear. he's flex(ible) in what argument he can execute, and did performance because his partner is good at it. I never said anything about his preferences. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
