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If anyone wants to judge, just reply. We will be starting the debate more or less the beginning of next week since Nick is at a tournament this weekend so I'll probably post the 1AC like Sunday.

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CX:

 

What does the 1AC define as a refugee, and what causes them to come to the US?

 

What's the current funding for Refugee School Impact Program (RSIP)?

 

Why is more funding needed?

 

Does the plan provide federal funding to schools?

 

Where does the solvency evidence indicate that the RSIP can solve for the issues outlined in the Inherency contention?

 

What does the 1AC define as a terrorist?

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CX:

 

What does the 1AC define as a refugee, and what causes them to come to the US?

Basically people forced to flee their home country, what causes them to come to the US are factors such as war, famine, etc. in their home country. The US resettles them.

 

What's the current funding for Refugee School Impact Program (RSIP)?

About $12.5 million

 

Why is more funding needed?

More funding needed b/c the increase in refugees due to a variety of events such as the Syrian Civil War means more resettled refugee students in the US that need these resources that the RSIP provides.

 

Does the plan provide federal funding to schools?

Yes

 

Where does the solvency evidence indicate that the RSIP can solve for the issues outlined in the Inherency contention?

So the biggest problems for refugee students in the US are language barriers and social adjustment. The solvency evidence solves for that by providing money toward interpreter services as well as after school programs, clubs and etc. which faciliate students into becoming socially active and making friends.

 

What does the 1AC define as a terrorist?

Basically, people who use violence to accomplish a goal.

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What is a humble knowledge production in terms of your anarchist pedagogy alt?

 

Why will the student loan forgiveness programs described in "2" not be cut if the aff is not passed?

 

Can you explain the uniqueness overwhelms solvency on the case?

 

Are terror attacks being inevitable a reason to not do the plan?

 

Is the K and the advocacy of the 1AC without the reps mutually exclusive?

 

(2AC will probably be up tomorrow late or early Wednesday, sorry about the delay- I have school)

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What is a humble knowledge production in terms of your anarchist pedagogy alt?

Rouhani outlines near the middle and bottom of the evidence what the alt would look like - it's a more cooperative form of learning that believes anyone can produce "legitimate" knowledge, not just what the state says is legitimate

 

Why will the student loan forgiveness programs described in "2" not be cut if the aff is not passed?

The aff costs several million dollars, those funds have to come from somewhere, student loan forgiveness programs are already on the chopping block, meaning they'll likely be the first to go after an expensive bill

 

Can you explain the uniqueness overwhelms solvency on the case?

There are lots of other things that are discriminating against refugees in the status quo - Trump, the alt right, rhetoric surrounding terror, etc. - These are issues in the status quo that the aff can't solve

 

Are terror attacks being inevitable a reason to not do the plan?

This is just an example of the above - Whenever terror attacks do happen, the alt right is pretty quick to try and pin it on a refugee, someone of middle-eastern descent, etc

 

Is the K and the advocacy of the 1AC without the reps mutually exclusive?

I assume you're talking about the 4th off - I guess you could try to sever your reps and thus your epistemology, but that would just make the 1AC the same as the 4th off. If you're referring to the 1st off and the 4th off, I'd say that rejection of racist stereotypes would go hand-in-hand with the decentralized learning Rouhani outlines

 

(2AC will probably be up tomorrow late or early Wednesday, sorry about the delay- I have school)

You're good, take your time!

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CX:

 

Can you explain the terrorism advantage?

 

Aside from a general rejection of the state, what makes our alt similar to Ghandi?

 

Why does the PIC not utilize institutional change?

 

How is the aff an instance of anarchist pedagogy despite relying on state structures and molding of educational spaces?

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CX:

 

Can you explain the terrorism advantage?

Basically, refugee students are at risk for self-radicalization because of targetting by groups such as ISIS. That creates more terrorists and terrorism is bad because it leads to extinction.

 

Aside from a general rejection of the state, what makes our alt similar to Ghandi?

Well your alt, anarchist pedagogy, involves creating spaces for deconstructing oppressive spaces and that is what exactly Gandhi had tried to do. He used the term, swaraj, which for the politically minded in the Indian National Congress meant self-rule. For Gandhi however, it meant to decolonize on a much more personal level. It meant personal freedom through counter-institutions or "spaces" where colonial ideology was not dominant. It involved Gandhi "reinvigorating" the idea of "village life". This, along with his rejection of the colonial state is how your alt is similiar to Gandhi.

 

Why does the PIC not utilize institutional change?

The PIC is not utilizing institutional change because it paints change as always condescending. You called the 1AC a representation of refugees as terrorists. The focus on this makes institutional change impossible, that was Giroux. 

 

How is the aff an instance of anarchist pedagogy despite relying on state structures and molding of educational spaces?

To quote the 1NC, this is what the Rouhani 12 card defined an anarchist pedagogy as

"three characteristics for an anarchist approach to pedagogy: an approach to truth and knowledge production that is humble, the creation of spaces for the deconstruction of oppressive systems, and an understanding of everyone as capable of curiosity, learning, teaching, and creation"  The stories of refugees are a form of knowledge production that the state will fund thus the plan is an act of anarchist pedagogy because it believes refugee students can produce knowledge through our example of a student play. Student plays are spaces where oppressive systems such as the ideology of fearism can be deconstructed as audience members see a different perspective. And funding Refugee School Impact Programs allows refugee students to better receive an education which understands them as capable of curiosity, learning, teaching, and creation

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2742 - It'll be the K, the PIC, the Adv CP, the AUMF DA, and then the Culture Adv. Ready for CX, let me know when you're ready for the 1NR :)

 

Edit: Top of the doc says 2669, ignore that, thats from an earlier word count.

2NC v Refugee Ed.docx

Edited by NickDB8

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**Notice - Due to finals, etc., this round has been postponed for about a week-ish. As of now, there are still plans to complete it.

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How does the PIC support the 1AC when an alternative is being advocated for? Is that not contradicting?

 

Why does the alternative of anarchist pedagogy necessarily have to be without the state if the principles are achieved regardless?

 

If the status quo involves refugees perceived as the Other and incapable and the plan results in a new understanding of knowledge created by refugee students then how is this not a new form of knowledge production?

 

Is the state always in a position to be rejected regardless of any action it takes (i.e. banning slavery)?

 

How is the CP "politically popular"?

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How does the PIC support the 1AC when an alternative is being advocated for? Is that not contradicting?

The alt on the PIC isnt so much an alt, we say we can do the aff minus the way you represent refugees as terrorists

 

Why does the alternative of anarchist pedagogy necessarily have to be without the state if the principles are achieved regardless?

I'm not quite sure what you mean - We say that the state is bad. The analytic re: Gandhi is because he also opposed the state and specific, non-radical reforms of it

 

If the status quo involves refugees perceived as the Other and incapable and the plan results in a new understanding of knowledge created by refugee students then how is this not a new form of knowledge production?

Even if the plan is a "new" knowledge production, we still isolate several links to the aff that proves the aff isn't as revolutionary as you think, specifically the aff still relies on the idea that knowledge is to be dictated by the state

 

Is the state always in a position to be rejected regardless of any action it takes (i.e. banning slavery)?

The "good" things that the state has done were either a. to benefit the state, b. to fix a problem the state created, and/or c. can be done without the state. Even if its good in a few instances, the state isnt key to those things.

 

How is the CP "politically popular"?

It doesn't involve the aff and is more effective than it, meaning even if there's links to the DA, those links are smaller than the ones created by the aff making it try or die for the CP.

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