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I know it's a little early, but here's the 1AC, ready for CX.

 

Word count, according to Beck, is 2750/1625. Ried Warma is judging. 1AC is 2412.

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why vote aff?

 

what is cellular agriculture?

 

how does chinese agriculture cause amazon deforestation?

 

why is cellular agriculture in US and China sufficient to solve climate change worldwide?

 

what is the warrant for using normal means and fiat?

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why vote aff?

The plan is a good idea - Solves climate change, resource shortages, and deforestation

 

what is cellular agriculture?

It's protein produced through animal stem cells

 

how does chinese agriculture cause amazon deforestation?

China's meat production / consumption is currently unsustainable, which means they have to import meat from other countries, particularly the Latin American region. Those other countries have to be able to keep up with that consumption, so they cut down rainforests in order to make more room to raise animals. TLDR, China gets meat from other places which have to cut down trees to grow meat

 

why is cellular agriculture in US and China sufficient to solve climate change worldwide?

Goodland indicates that agriculture is the leading cause of warming, WildAid indicates that whatever China's policy is, it will soon be adopted by other countries

 

what is the warrant for using normal means and fiat?

What do you mean?

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CX:

Is the 1st off an advocacy?

 

Status of the advocacies?

 

You read complexity and apoc rhetoric - Why should these be evaluated, given the nuke war impact you read?

 

What's the solvency advocate and net benefit of the CP?

 

Is every government action under the Trump administration bad?

 

A lot of your defense is old - like 09 old - why should that be preferred over more recent ev?

 

What's the impact to the first off, and does it function on a pre- or post- fiat level?

 

Thesis of the 2nd off?

 

Can the aff exist in the world of any of the alts?

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CX:

Is the 1st off an advocacy?

yes it's an advocacy- you use the trump administration unconditionally, which we argue is an endorsement that is grounds to lose this debate

Status of the advocacies?

condo (trump k, complexity k, apoc rhetoric, spanos k); fiat double bind is a presumption argument without status

You read complexity and apoc rhetoric - Why should these be evaluated, given the nuke war impact you read?

conditional logic- if complexity is false, then evaluate apoc rhetoric; if apoc rhetoric is false, then evaluate the nuke war impact

What's the solvency advocate and net benefit of the CP?

solvency advocate in the block if we go for it; NB is the Xi DA

Is every government action under the Trump administration bad?

as per the trump K yes

A lot of your defense is old - like 09 old - why should that be preferred over more recent ev?

i mean we will contend that the claims of the cards are true even if old

What's the impact to the first off, and does it function on a pre- or post- fiat level?

pre and post fiat- you endorse trump actively in the 1ac so it's a post fiat issue- it's also a pre fiat issue because we will argue that rejection of trump is k2 saving functional american politics 

Thesis of the 2nd off?

it's a criticism of fiat

Can the aff exist in the world of any of the alts?

nope

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Last one - What does a criticism of fiat entail?

it's a criticism of the practice of fiat itself on a political and philosophical - i.e. you have to justify being able to use fiat outside of procedural concerns

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it's a criticism of the practice of fiat itself on a political and philosophical - i.e. you have to justify being able to use fiat outside of procedural concerns

do u debate in the uc berkley machine?

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This round sets the precedence for all rounds to follow. Smooth, fast, and great communication. Great job, ya'll. Good luck!

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CX:

who is sebastian gorka?

what about the complexity K precludes making predictions?

so you read hanghoj and eijkman- what arguments do they answer?

you read this spanos evidence- how on earth does this apply?

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CX:

who is sebastian gorka?

This actually includes two other authors - Michael J. Gallagher is a Captain in the US Marine Corps, Fellow in the Junior

Officer Strategic Intelligence Program, and Ph.D. student in international relations at
Georgetown University. Dr. Joshua A. Geltzer is a law clerk to Chief Judge Alex Kozinski of the Ninth Circuit
Court of Appeals. He graduated in 2011 from Yale Law School, where he served as
editor in chief of the Yale Law Journal. He received his Ph.D. in War Studies from King’s
College, London, where he studied on a Marshall Scholarship. Dr. Sebastian L. v. Gorka is the Director of the Homeland Defense Fellows Program
at the College of International Security Affairs, National Defense University, and also
teaches Irregular Warfare and US National Security at NDU and Georgetown. 

what about the complexity K precludes making predictions?

I'd argue that if it doesn't preclude making predictions, there's not a reason to reject the aff's thinking. Complexity also argues that predictions are wrong bc they don't account for an infinite of other factors

so you read hanghoj and eijkman- what arguments do they answer?

They are reasons why fiat is good, as you said we needed to prove in CX

you read this spanos evidence- how on earth does this apply?

I mean, it directly clashes with your Spanos ev - Spanos straight up says he hates today's form of debate, especially conditional arguments, so this means that this is a) the wrong forum, creating a solvency deficit based on the 1NC solvency advocate, and B) offense, because it makes reading the 1NC link to the K

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so you read hanghoj and eijkman- what arguments do they answer?

They are reasons why fiat is good, as you said we needed to prove in CX

 

these cards seem to be talking about how debate is good- again how does this answer fiat bad claims

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so you read hanghoj and eijkman- what arguments do they answer?

They are reasons why fiat is good, as you said we needed to prove in CX

 

these cards seem to be talking about how debate is good- again how does this answer fiat bad claims

 

They refer to roleplaying and discussions of scenarios caused by (or by lack of) hypothetical government policies.

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CX:

 

Does your specific FW function on a pre- or post- fiat level?

 

Where does the 1AC claim to be a "silver bullet" for environmental problems?

 

Where does the 1AC talk about the US being involved in war?

 

Is Sa 04 just a link to policymaking?

 

Under what conditions will the alt conclude that the aff is the correct method to solve, if ever?

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CX:

 

Does your specific FW function on a pre- or post- fiat level?

both

Where does the 1AC claim to be a "silver bullet" for environmental problems?

the entire 1ac actually....

the emissions advantage claims that cellular agriculture solves all of global warming

the deforestation advantage claims that adopting cellular agriculture in china solves all of amazonian deforestation

the water wars advantage claims that cellular agriculture solves all manners of land and water pollution in china

also your answers to 1AC CX from above are pretty damning where you claim this big broad spillover to world environmental issues from the plan

Where does the 1AC talk about the US being involved in war?

the war link is to war in general which you link to through the climate wars impact and the entire water wars advantage

Is Sa 04 just a link to policymaking?

which sa card there are a few

Under what conditions will the alt conclude that the aff is the correct method to solve, if ever?

literally use complex analysis and you can solve- you don't in the aff- as proven by our five links

 

One more - How does the alt spill up into policymaking?

that's all of the policymaking evidence we read and the multiple serial policy failure cards we read- complex analysis solves policymaking by allowing for better predictive models, causal factor analysis, better understandings of world geopolitics, and ultimately better policies and decisions

 

also 1NR is ready when CX is over

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Ok, couple follow ups

 

1AC claims to mitigate Squo harms - Where did we ever say we can solve 100% of, say, warming?

 

The war link talks about specifically US involved war: "The opponents of the United States will be looking for our blindspots in an effort to seize opportunities to surprise and shock us." Where does the 1AC ever discuss military action against the US?

 

The Sa card I referred to: Uncertainty link: The predictive logic of the 1AC in the face of continual uncertainty ensures their policy changes will revert back to chaos. Is this just a link to policymaking?

 

Will complex analysis ever conclude that the aff is the correct method to solve?

 

I see all the alt solves policymaking cards - What does voting neg endorses complexity theory, how does that spill into institutions? ie, how does it change policymaker's opinions / thought?

 

Ready for 1NR.
 

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Ok, couple follow ups

 

1AC claims to mitigate Squo harms - Where did we ever say we can solve 100% of, say, warming?

well you've created a double bind for yourself: either you claim to solve 100% of warming which is indicted by the K or you don't solve 100% of warming which means you can't access your warming impacts

The war link talks about specifically US involved war: "The opponents of the United States will be looking for our blindspots in an effort to seize opportunities to surprise and shock us." Where does the 1AC ever discuss military action against the US?

sure the card might be about the US but the logic applies to non-US wars

 

The Sa card I referred to: Uncertainty link: The predictive logic of the 1AC in the face of continual uncertainty ensures their policy changes will revert back to chaos. Is this just a link to policymaking?

no this is a link to your form of policymaking rooted in linearity

Will complex analysis ever conclude that the aff is the correct method to solve?

i know what you are trying to get out of this so i'll preempt it: complex analysis will never conclude that the aff AS CONSTRUCTED NOW will solve- only methods that use complex analysis can solve

I see all the alt solves policymaking cards - What does voting neg endorses complexity theory, how does that spill into institutions? ie, how does it change policymaker's opinions / thought?

the alt is to use complexity theory in policy making and decisions; in the world of the alt complexity theory is the basis for predictive models and policymaking; think of this as mandating a new process be used

Ready for 1NR.

 

1NR is CP and Fiat Double Bind

1NR vs NickDB8.docx

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1AR is Case, Complexity, Fiat DB. 1640~ words, I know it's a lil over but I assume it's ok because I'm reciprocating the 1NR

1AR R1.docx

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