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Is "Perm do the Alt then the Plan" or vice versa severance?

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One of my debater buds told me it was severing out of the timeframe because they don't pass at the same time and also made the Alt and plan noncompetitive, but I wouldn't qualify him as a reliable source.

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No it's an intrinsic perm because it calls into question timeframe which wasn't present in either the aff or the alt.

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Its can be either. You add the element of time while also severing the immediacy of the fiated aff. No matter what you call it, its illegit for the same reasons

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