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Hi y'all, this previous weekend my partner and I debated a case with the plan text similar to "The United States federal government should substantially increase its economic engagement with the People's Republic of China by providing tax incentives to U.S. companies willing to produce pork without ractopamine if China agrees to a pork trade deal". 

 

We won against the case by going three off with generic DAs and T, but we had absolutely no substantive on case argumentation. The case had no terminal impacts and it was pretty much a huge econ advantage. It was about the trade deficit and reducing unemployment, so we weren't even really able to put any impact defense on it. The only on case arg I was able to make was that because they couldn't tell me how much the pork industry contributes to the GDP every year, then there is no way to tell if it would reduce the deficit enough to actually mean anything. 

 

 

It seems as if this is one of those affs that only arise so people would not be able to actually debate against it. (Gotta love missouri debate)

 

NOTE: The way case is structured and what I was actually able to get from them in CX was that we would pretty much be providing China with ractopamine-free pork. We don't really get much physically in return besides money from them buying it.

 

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks y'all. 

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Run topicality, QPQ is bad, inround abuse is proven by

1) Extra-T: Decreasing Tax incentives isn't engagement with the PRC, proves no predictable limits

2) FX-T: At best, they are effectually topical because they only increase engagement as a result of the tax incentives

3) Foreign Actor Fiat: Their plan text doesn't have the US increase engagement with China, but has China increase engagement with the US as a result of a domestic plan, which first destroys limits but also proves bidirectionality

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I would go so far as to say pork is not the centerpiece of the global economy and that unemployment is a product of socio-economic inequality, not special bacon.

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If the government needs to create tax incentives to induce people to sell China that kind of pork, it seems likely producing that pork would otherwise be a net loss to pork companies. Subsidizing broken windows and repair is typically seen as a bad idea.

 

Trade deficit is meaningless, both sides of a trade benefit from trade. We are not eighteenth century mercantilists.

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you can read a methane/warming da against this aff- if the aff is a massive expansion of pig farming, that creates huge amounts of new methane emissions, causes higher, increased warming levels, extinction

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hahahha this team is from my school

 

1. China says no – they like EU meat better

Steever 16 (Tom Steever, 4/12/16, Brownfield Ag News, EU HOG FARMERS BENEFIT FROM INCREASED DEMAND FROM CHINA, https://brownfieldagnews.com/news/eu-hog-farmers-benefit-increased-demand-china/) 

 

2. Also, you can expose their Stuart, Reuters, Singh, and Frederick evidence as all making the aff uninherent (Missouri lol). They all say in some way or another, very clearly though, that farmers are already doing the aff. Randy Spronk is a farmer in specific.

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There is only one way to attack a case like this. This works in K heavy and non K areas.

 

2 OFF:

Bacon DA

Bufalo DA

Cow DA

Lamb DA

Sausage DA

Fish DA

and 

T

And I thought the /Aff/ was anthropocentric.
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There is only one way to attack a case like this. This works in K heavy and non K areas.

 

2 OFF:

Bacon DA

Bufalo DA

Cow DA

Lamb DA

Sausage DA

Fish DA

and 

T

this sounds like more than 2 off

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There is only one way to attack a case like this. This works in K heavy and non K areas.

 

Lamb DA

 

 

 

Whatcha talking about?

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