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Awesome aff!

Plan:

-Your PT seems a bit vague. Who's policies will they have to comply to?

-And would they have to abide by every environmental and scientific policy from the council?

-What happens if they do not abide by said rules?

-What nations are involved in the council?

-Why hasnt the council already sent an invite to china?

Warming:

-Just a general question. How does the cooperation solve GW?

-How does Arctic cooperation solve the entirety of US-China relations?

MultiLat:

-What is Brexit?

-is the impact just SCS? 

 

Ill have more tomorrow but I thought Id throw some of them out there before I head to bed. 

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Awesome aff!

Plan:

-Your PT seems a bit vague. Who's policies will they have to comply to?

the arctic council's

-And would they have to abide by every environmental and scientific policy from the council?

only bilateral and cooperative ones

-What happens if they do not abide by said rules?

the plan is a QPQ- if they don't accept/abide by the conditions then the US doesnt offer to support and pursue full member status and the engagement is revoked

-What nations are involved in the council?

Canada, Denmark, Finland, Iceland, Norway, Russia, Sweden and the US

-Why hasnt the council already sent an invite to china?

they were invited to permanent observer status- they're waiting for China to initiate proceedings- they are interested

Warming:

-Just a general question. How does the cooperation solve GW?

that's slayton and brigham 2- coop produces reasearch that finds linkages between polar regions and climate change- that allows targeted solutions- also hongzhou says us china coop is key b/c they set the multilateral order that's needed to solve and they are also the biggest emitters- any solution must involve them

How does Arctic cooperation solve the entirety of US-China relations?

that's slayton and brigham 1- we dont claim to restart all us-china relations just us-china arctic relations- now is key b/c the US chairs the arctic council until 2017- they hold power to promote more dialogue and reasearch/engagement and coop with china

MultiLat:

-What is Brexit?

brexit was the vote that the UK took to leave the EU- that is a major blow to multilat b/c it signals no confidence in multilateral institutions like the EU

-is the impact just SCS? 

it's SCS plus the impacts in heinenen, herd, the 2 dwyer cards, and pouliot- multilat solves for lots of things and US-China arctic coop through the arctic council spills over

Ill have more tomorrow but I thought Id throw some of them out there before I head to bed. 

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CX

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how does the aff violate- we only mandate immediate action between us and china

explain the topical version of the aff-like what would that look like

how is the aff extra T

what arguments do you lose access to

DA

what is the link?

where does your link card mention the US even once?

what's the internal between the link and arctic nuclear war?

buckley advocates for removing arctic nuke submarines- how does this prove war/escalation 

for both k's

status?

enviro justice k

what on earth is the link?

what does the world of the alt look like?

can the alt result in the plan?

how is the alt different from the aff

cap

explain the link?

can the alt result in the plan?

case

you say multilat is the only way to effectively solve on warming but then you say multilat fails on multilat adv- how is this not a contradiction and which is it?

how does ASEAN solve overfishing?

how do we link to the acharya turn?

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how does the aff violate- we only mandate immediate action between us and china

The main incentive for china to "follow" the US is to get accepted in the Council, the punishment for not abiding by the regulations also comes from the Artic council, the only way China would follow the US is with the promise of that multi lateral membership PLUS im guessing for China to access to the artic, it would require the other nations to sign off and say theyre okay with china exploring through EEZ

explain the topical version of the aff-like what would that look like

US should increased EE/DE by cooperating with China in the Artic, US should engage with China to sttop overfishing/warming

how is the aff extra T

You use an international organization to gain some solvency thats in your case. 

what arguments do you lose access to- 

Arctic Council DA/CP, TONS of "china says no" and case turns. American Exceptionalism K, afro k, most Race based Ks as most are US direct action. some SOI DAs, plus you kinda have some vague evidence about how far China is willing to go to join that Council. 

DA

what is the link?

China expansion into the arctic scares Russia, which causes further tensions and militarization of the Arctic 

where does your link card mention the US even once?

Um we never talk about US in the evidence or tags. 

what's the internal between the link and arctic nuclear war?

Que? im confused. 

buckley advocates for removing arctic nuke submarines- how does this prove war/escalation 

He also talks about how when theres a militerized area, it "can not be contained" 

for both k's

status?

Conditional

enviro justice k

what on earth is the link?

Native Americans have been excluded from discussions about the arctic in US policy, even though they are the actor that is primarily effected. 

OR

You can look Pezard and Smith evidence where I highlighted a part that says further development of the Arctic creates impacts to the nearby communities in Russia. 

what does the world of the alt look like?

Kinda confused on what exactly you're asking. 

can the alt result in the plan?

Um I guess

how is the alt different from the aff

We prioirtize Envirnmental justice, you dont.

cap

explain the link?

The US's paints China in a fearful picture(like youre OF/Warming advantages), is be deeprooted in capitalism because the US is afraid what will happen if China begins to play by capitalistic rules, and continues to challenge the in certain economic markets.

can the alt result in the plan?

If we reject the capitalist system, i guess?

case

you say multilat is the only way to effectively solve on warming but then you say multilat fails on multilat adv- how is this not a contradiction and which is it?

MMkay so theres a difference between Multilateralism in general and Multilateralism for a certain goal, as long as nations are united to fight, lets say warming its cool. But the idea that multilateralism works to solve tons of impacts is not true.

how does ASEAN solve overfishing?

Multiple ways, the evidence youre referring talks about ASEAN nations working together on fisheries, their regional cooperation is also key to solving

how do we link to the acharya turn?

Well the evidence isolates two reasons. One- Chinas development in the ocean(exp. SCS conflict) creates super controversial topics in which seperates the organization) Two- some of the newer countries are scared of China so they make decisions specifically to appease them, again hurting ASEAN

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Topicality:

What do you mean by "conditional"?

What is the Arctic Council used for in this aff?

You know the T is not a QPQ one right? If so, why are most of your arguements about it?

Warming: 

How does the plan lead to the Paris momentum?

Why is china key?

MultiLat:

Hooooww does artic cooperation solve all those impacts?

What is try or die? 

Why is china key?

Overfishing:

Why is china key to the world bioD?

Cap:

Why do your perms solve?

Explain the Grosfoguel 10 evidence  Im really confused.

What does "cede the political" mean?

Environmental Justice: 

How is there text alt? 

Where does your wiki evidence say that the council has actually listened to the communities and they changed a policy because of those communities?

What is a link of omission? 

Can you explain the perms a bit more.

DA: 

Why does most of your evidence talk about a US-Russia war. when the DA never talks about the US expansion?

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Topicality:

What do you mean by "conditional"?

as in the offer is not final- it can be rescinded or withdrawn if China doesn't meet/agree to the conditions

What is the Arctic Council used for in this aff?

they are the multilateral body China is invited into- the arctic council with china in it then solves the advantages

You know the T is not a QPQ one right? If so, why are most of your arguements about it?

the qpq stuff is the counterinterp we read- we make a lot of arguments that prove the counterinterp solves your offense and more

Warming: 

How does the plan lead to the Paris momentum?

it proves multilateral agreements can work and shows that countries are willing to commit

Why is china key?

china is key because they are in the top 2 of world emitters- only climate solution is useless without their involvement and action

MultiLat:

Hooooww does artic cooperation solve all those impacts?

we listed out every mpx from our advantage that you ceded- heinenen indicates that coop in the arctic over environment spills over to solve warfare, Ukraine, ISIS, disease, warming, and assymetric conflicts

then dwyer 1 says us-china arctic council coop spills over to solve SCS and dwyer 2 says china coop solves proxy wars and herd 10 says managing those proxy wars solves asymetric threats

What is try or die? 

if there's any risk that the aff solves and can avoid the existential threats then you vote aff even if solvency probability is really, really low

Why is china key?

china is only key to the SCS and proxy wars stuff- the other is only specific to coop through arctic council

Overfishing:

Why is china key to the world bioD?

our ev says that china is such a overfisher that they're wiping out whole species of fish or making it very, very hard for them to survive- this harms the environment and also biodiversity- china is the #1 overfisher in the world

Cap:

Why do your perms solve?

we assume they're tests of competition not solvency mechanisms- it sounds like we need to have a debate over that whether perms or tests or mechanisms 

Explain the Grosfoguel 10 evidence  Im really confused.

it's a racism turn to the alt- straight ortho marx leads to big amounts of racism- also the alt gets coopted as it's used to expand cap into the "east"

What does "cede the political" mean?

you are a radical revolution that turns away from political institutions- not only does reformism not revolt solve but also your form of thinking causes the k to be rejected in the public leading to the right to take control instead of the left which leads to your cap bad impacts and public violence and targeting of leftists like marxists

Environmental Justice: 

How is there text alt? 

we're making the argument that since there is no explicit alt text in the 1NC you should be lenient in 1AR answers to it since this K could morph and shift easily

Where does your wiki evidence say that the council has actually listened to the communities and they changed a policy because of those communities?

it doesn't- your argument was just that the people and their policy ideas and policymakers were systematically ignored- we disprove that in the specific case of the aff

What is a link of omission? 

a link of omission is the idea that the aff links to a K just b/c they didn't do something or speak to something- an example would be that an aff about hair "linking" to a critique of computers b/c the aff didn't say they were anti-computer or do anything to destroy the power of computers in the 1AC

Can you explain the perms a bit more.

do both basically is that there's no reason we can't extend a solution of warming to then addressing issues of justice

aff then alt is a timeframe perm- we avoid extinction through many ways and then we can address issues of justice

aff and alt in all other instances- do the alt in every world but the aff- the aff is a uniquely good idea, can address justice already, and at worst is only 1 more link which an alt should realistically be able to accomodate through the perm otherwise it's so weak that it's not worth doing

DA: 

Why does most of your evidence talk about a US-Russia war. when the DA never talks about the US expansion?

actually only the yalowitz cards are us and russia specific- arctic portal and pezard and smith are china-russia specific- even then the yalowitz cards apply b/c they prove either that action through arctic council doesnt link to russia getting aggressive, that the da is non-uq since russia isn't building up the arctic anyways, and that arctic war wont happen since military action like war isnt in anyone's interests- also that increased arctic council action can diffuse russia

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Hey, sorry for the wait, I havent had time to make the 2NC yet(with work, family, and summer classwork), itll be up by the end of the weekend, Sorry again

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