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Is policy debate a dying art?

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I've actually been thinking about this, it seems that policy debate participation seems to be steadily decreasing due to funding etc. Paperless debate has come and that allows debate to be far more accessible but I do not understand why the opposite is occurring. What are yall thinking?

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I would stand on the side of it dying. The reason behind this is that the community seems to give a special status to flow debate. In order to be competitive on a national level it requires large amounts of money and countless hours of work as well as having the money or good fortune to have a coach who understands enough about debate to help debaters grow. This creates a barrier between those with opportunity and those without it. Of course large nat circuit schools usually have a lot of money, but what about the schools that we have never heard of? What about the schools that can't attend those tournaments? They will probably stay on local circuits with majority lay debate and it will lead to the death of debate in its current form across the country aside from the elite few who can afford to continue competing on a national level.

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I would stand on the side of it dying. The reason behind this is that the community seems to give a special status to flow debate. In order to be competitive on a national level it requires large amounts of money and countless hours of work as well as having the money or good fortune to have a coach who understands enough about debate to help debaters grow. This creates a barrier between those with opportunity and those without it. Of course large nat circuit schools usually have a lot of money, but what about the schools that we have never heard of? What about the schools that can't attend those tournaments? They will probably stay on local circuits with majority lay debate and it will lead to the death of debate in its current form across the country aside from the elite few who can afford to continue competing on a national level.

that's also because kansas has some weird state regulations about not travelling 500 miles from your school.

 

but moreover, Arkansas wasn't on the map, and still really isn't, until Payton and DJ took off this year. They were self-sufficient, and coached by alumni and we all know how well they faired. 

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that's also because kansas has some weird state regulations about not travelling 500 miles from your school.

 

but moreover, Arkansas wasn't on the map, and still really isn't, until Payton and DJ took off this year. They were self-sufficient, and coached by alumni and we all know how well they faired. 

Payton had also previously stated that - on here - that he started reading Nietzsche, among other philosophers, in his middle school years; trying to use LRC WoWi as a basis for the claim that policy debate is accessible seems very egregious. Not everyone has the grounding in philosophy necessary for them to answer things such as a Deleuzoguatarrian faciality aff, or read it for that matter. This also the begs the question of time and commitment; if you're not attending one of the more well funded schools with policy debate in the country, then that probably means that you need to find out how to allocate time for both school and debate; sometimes that paper due next week is more important than cutting new evidence for that new aff some school broke at a tournament last weekend. Some schools don't even have coaches; the schools I debated for only had coaches who had a rudimentary understanding of what policy debate is and focused more on novice level debate where they break down affirmatives that our UDL would give us; but if you wanted to move up, you were - and some still are - left to your own devices. What ends up happening is that because some people don't have the time to sit around reading through Preciado's book, a lot of people end up getting frustrated and leaving policy debate because they feel as if they ought to focus more on school, and rightfully so. The shit that we talk about within debate spaces has been directly affecting the level of participation in debate; some people might become influenced by watching LRC WoWi's mastery of K debate and pursue a debate career centered on K debate, whereas others - and this is usually the case - might choose to withdraw from debate because of the fear that they'll need to, at some point, answer these type of arguments coherently. And the thing is that a lot of the people in debate are massive assholes; most of the time, when somebody asks for help on these forums, we just bombard them with sarcastic remarks about how their lack of understanding is laughable and encourage them to not read [insert obscure philosopher here] in debate. We actively poke fun at the attempts people make to answer certain philosophers, utterly destroying their morale. 

 

But debate is, in the end, an elitist white activity for the privileged so whatevs (^:

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