Little rock WW didn't break at berkeley

[tommy949 449]

What? How can this happen?

[kylerbuckner 1164]

I wonder why. They didn't have a rough prelim schedule...

[Theparanoiacmachine 1676]

If you've ever been to Berkeley; most of the judges that are actually qualified and have been doing policy debate for more than 4 years are usually a minority and can be seen judging only a couple of debaters. Now for the rest of the judging pool; it consists mostly of parents, college debaters from other debate formats (for instance, an LD debater from  X college), and sometime random people. I'd say that LRC WW had the misfortune of being judged by those kind of judges; and before any of you say they should have adapted to their judges - it really doesn't matter what you say or do, these judges sometimes vote against you regardless of the arguments made in the debate (for instance, if an Aff is clearly not topical, and the neg never brings it up; the judge will still probably vote on T for no reason). 

 

Edit 1: Source: I've spectated multiple UC Berkeley rounds. 

Edited February 16, 2016 by Theparanoiacmachine

[crazyman1090 7]

If you've every been to Berkeley; most of the judges that are actually qualified and have been doing policy debate for more than 4 years are usually a minority and can be seen judging only a couple of debaters. Now for the rest of the judging pool; it consists mostly of parents, college debaters from other debate formats (for instance, an LD debater from  X college), and sometime random people. I'd say that LRC WW had the misfortune of being judged by those kind of judges; and before any of you say they should have adapted to their judges - it really doesn't matter what you say or do, these judges sometimes vote against you regardless of the arguments made in the debate (for instance, if an Aff is clearly not topical, and the neg never brings it up; the judge will still probably vote on T for no reason). 

 

Edit 1: Source: I've spectated multiple UC Berkeley rounds.

 

They may also be trying out a new argument or something. In the round robin they got a total of 0 wins and 2 ballots total.

[AltsNeverSolve 190]

Yeah I went to Berkeley and I can personally confirm at least 25% of the judges are crap

[CapitalismIsNotCool 919]

DJ told me that they lost a round to politics (while reading an aff that doesn't defend the state/their fugitivity aff), and also lost a round to "I don't think you'll do the alt outside of the round". Idk what their third loss was, but it appears that I am now better than them since we had a better record (jk, love Payton 5ever). 

 

edit: he also whopped our ass at the ou rr so just know im joking y'all lol

Edited February 15, 2016 by CapitalismIsNotCool

[tommy949 449]

What? I remember Berkeley! I had really good legit judges when I was debating except for JV! OMG, JV was awful!

[kylerbuckner 1164]

DJ told me that they lost a round to politics (while reading an aff that doesn't defend the state/their fugitivity aff), and also lost a round to "I don't think you'll do the alt outside of the round". Idk what their third loss was, but it appears that I am now better than them since we had a better record (jk, love Payton 5ever). 

 

edit: he also whopped our ass at the ou rr so just know im joking y'all lol

they did get 1st and 3rd speaks respectively

Edited February 16, 2016 by DonaldTrump

[jenxtang 67]

DJ told me that they lost a round to politics (while reading an aff that doesn't defend the state/their fugitivity aff)

 

one of the best elections DA link/ I/L chain i've ever heard lol 

[OneOffPresumption 26]

I was there. According to some teams/friends, they were having partner issues. Don't quote me on this