Jump to content
1961

[Surveillance Topic] Kritiks for next year

Recommended Posts

What sort of links would be predicated off of the Foucault kritik?

^

I was sure Foucault was surveillance bad/biopower. MUCH more effective on the aff in my opinion. 

 

QT Privacy K is going to be big  -  "Privacy Litigation: Toward a Contextual Strategy for Lesbian and Gay Rights” - Cathy Harris

 

Maybe like Communism/Socialism K? Like, Gov power good k2 being egalitarian? Probably a bad idea, but there might be something of the sort. 

Edited by kylerbuckner

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

^

I was sure Foucault was surveillance bad/biopower. MUCH more effective on the aff in my opinion.

 

that's a very literalist reading of early foucault

 

but much of the libertarian politics undergirding the contemporary anti-surveillance movement is predicated expressly on a preference for individual autonomy and self-government that later foucault indicts

  • Upvote 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

that's a very literalist reading of early foucault

 

but much of the libertarian politics undergirding the contemporary anti-surveillance movement is predicated expressly on a preference for individual autonomy and self-government that later foucault indicts

Which book is this? 

Edited by kylerbuckner

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

that's a very literalist reading of early foucault

 

but much of the libertarian politics undergirding the contemporary anti-surveillance movement is predicated expressly on a preference for individual autonomy and self-government that later foucault indicts

Wait, doesn't Foucault champion care of the self? Doesn't Foucault say that opposition to biopower arise from the very concept of individual autonomy?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Wait, doesn't Foucault champion care of the self? Doesn't Foucault say that opposition to biopower arise from the very concept of individual autonomy?

Foucault doesn't even say biopower is always bad though...

  • Upvote 3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Which book is this? 

 

google "governmentality"

 

don't get me wrong, this isn't a slam-dunk link, but I think it's a lot more interesting than the basic "NSA surveillance = bioptx" arg

 

Wait, doesn't Foucault champion care of the self? Doesn't Foucault say that opposition to biopower arise from the very concept of individual autonomy?

 

care of the self =/= liberal autonomy

Edited by Needs More Consult Japan
  • Upvote 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Who needs K aff's when you can just beat them on depth of the topic. I wish I were in HS again for this topic because I'll just hit teams with aff's like "The USFG should mandate that the NSA insert a break statement into every class/function deceleration in all programs that they use or will write" and watch them read stupid shit like FX-T bad and no-linking K's instead of having to get into things like ptx debates. 

 

What? You read a K? Well shit, time to pull all of the "revolution from within possible" and "The aff is the type of resistance that subverts that capitalist system anyway" style answers. Read some shit on how if the next Snowden did this it would bring the NSA to their knees. 

  • Downvote 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I think all of your problems will be resolved if you just read Nietzsche or Bataille.  Existentialism is immune from all of these worries.

  • Upvote 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I think all of your problems will be resolved if you just read Nietzsche or Bataille.  Existentialism is immune from all of these worries.

Or Security, assuming it's a policy aff.

 

Or be a cool kid and impact turn the aff.

  • Upvote 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Or Security, assuming it's a policy aff.

 

Or be a cool kid and impact turn the aff.

I thought "impact turning the aff" was a myth? Unless OP is the chosen won and decides to actually debate instead of reading random K's :0

  • Upvote 5

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

One of my teammates is reading Lacan on the aff next year - "Utopian Security Apparatus" she calls it

A lot of people are gonna be read up on DnG by next year - she better prep for DnG's scathing critique of Psychoanalysis, especially since you're in the West Coast, which is very K-Oriented 

  • Upvote 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The neg K ground for this topic is definitely not for those who shy away from high theory. 

 

 

Oh, and there's always cap and anthro, yo 

  • Upvote 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

A lot of people are gonna be read up on DnG by next year - she better prep for DnG's scathing critique of Psychoanalysis, especially since you're in the West Coast, which is very K-Oriented

 

Takes way more than a summer to become-educated on Deleuze. The number of superficial "surveillance is bad", or "psycho is bad" debates will certainly be deadening.

  • Upvote 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Wait, doesn't Foucault champion care of the self? Doesn't Foucault say that opposition to biopower arise from the very concept of individual autonomy?

Yes, but just because opposition arises to biopower because of individual autonomy does not mean that individual autonomy is the only way to oppose biopower, or is an any way a preferable means to oppose biopower. This is assuming biopower is something we can and want to get rid of. Also, how individual autonomy opposes biopower shapes the way biopower is employed and most likely in a way that both propagates governmentality and extends biopolitical power.

 

Really, and "individualist" reading of Foucault is going to be very flawed from the outset, seeing as Foucault is not an individualist in any way.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Yes, but just because opposition arises to biopower because of individual autonomy does not mean that individual autonomy is the only way to oppose biopower, or is an any way a preferable means to oppose biopower. This is assuming biopower is something we can and want to get rid of. Also, how individual autonomy opposes biopower shapes the way biopower is employed and most likely in a way that both propagates governmentality and extends biopolitical power.

 

Really, and "individualist" reading of Foucault is going to be very flawed from the outset, seeing as Foucault is not an individualist in any way.

Fair enough - I've been more interested in Deleuze from the get-go, so my readings of Foucault were trivial

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Absolutely stupid idea that I got from theparanoiamachine cause his rating is exactly 999 right now, but would an illuminati k aff work?

 

I'm kinda new though so no idea how it would work, but it could be somewhat similar to this year's Cthulhu aff in which the new world order is like symbolic for some other thingy relating to absolute surveillance. Could be modeled after a lot of people's work like Baudrillard, Foucault, DnG (I dunno, would fascism work?), or anybody else who writes on this stuff.

 

And even better, for a performance, troll the other team and do an enormous illuminati confirmed theory using the people's names or whatever the heck else you choose.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Absolutely stupid idea that I got from theparanoiamachine cause his rating is exactly 999 right now, but would an illuminati k aff work?

 

I'm kinda new though so no idea how it would work, but it could be somewhat similar to this year's Cthulhu aff in which the new world order is like symbolic for some other thingy relating to absolute surveillance. Could be modeled after a lot of people's work like Baudrillard, Foucault, DnG (I dunno, would fascism work?), or anybody else who writes on this stuff.

 

And even better, for a performance, troll the other team and do an enormous illuminati confirmed theory using the people's names or whatever the heck else you choose.

Baudrillard is the most relevant for a 'whole world is symbolic' arg (well, after psychoanalyis, which would actually be way more relevant with stuff about fear of terrorists and whatnot, but it's not the cool kid arg so w/e)

 

And don't go for illuminati/perf/troll shit. After judging more HS rounds I can say I hate when people go for shit like that. Sitting through these rounds is quite possibly one of the worst debate experiences to be in the back of the room for.

Edited by SnarkosaurusRex
  • Upvote 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...

×
×
  • Create New...