BobbyTables 298 Report post Posted July 29, 2015 Real. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SnarkosaurusRex 2831 Report post Posted July 29, 2015 Can't tell if real or troll if real sounds amazing please answer Yeah, like the USFG should have curtailed surveillance on the black Panthers could be an aff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobbyTables 298 Report post Posted July 30, 2015 How do those affs answer things like Counterplan: the USFG should never have surveilled the Black Panthers or Counterplan: the Americas should never have been colonized? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SnarkosaurusRex 2831 Report post Posted July 30, 2015 How do those affs answer things like Counterplan: the USFG should never have surveilled the Black Panthers or Counterplan: the Americas should never have been colonized? The perm? Neither of those sound competitive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobbyTables 298 Report post Posted July 30, 2015 How does the perm function? If the Americas were never colonized, there's no USFG to curtail surveillance (likewise, if the surveillance was never initiated, there's no surveillance to curtail). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squirrelloid 935 Report post Posted July 30, 2015 How does the perm function? If the Americas were never colonized, there's no USFG to curtail surveillance (likewise, if the surveillance was never initiated, there's no surveillance to curtail). And this is why historically counterfactual affs are a bad idea, because it becomes pure theory debate. (All policy affirmatives are counterfactual, because plan is not being done. Which is why i specify historically counterfactual, because imagining a different past is a very different thing from imagining a different future). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites