Nodulux 54 Report post Posted March 6, 2016 <Wrecking cut out for the sake of brevity> There's a bunch of factual inaccuracies in here, <More wrecking> First off, oh my gosh, IDK who ashock is but they just got destroyed. Second, sorry if I messed some details up. What factual inaccuracies were you referring to, exactly? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baudrizzle 14 Report post Posted March 6, 2016 "and OES pretty consistently gets trolled in triples" upvoted because I just got smashed for real though, Jon is amazing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justamundaneusername 17 Report post Posted March 6, 2016 Not a huge fan of "online communities" like this, but I'm gonna resurrect my account for a quick second because I cannot stand when people trash on my siblings. This year, Jon is as good, probably better, than me. He's currently debating with an 8th grader with absolutely zero debate experience, and he absolutely steamrolls teams that annihilate South and OES on the regular. Not taking away from Soren and Cyrus, but I don't see them beating teams with 5,6 bids. Henry and Leo are both very very good, but Jon is, without a doubt, individually better. Idk if you don't do logic or are just a hater, but Jon and Kacie almost never lose to either South or OES. I know they aren't going to the TOC and whatnot, but also realize that Clackamas goes to one bid tournament a year. South took half a dozen tournaments to get two bids, and OES pretty consistently gets trolled in triples, if they even make it there. And at zag, Jon and Kacie lost their bid round to basically the best team on the west coast. this is 100% true – Jon is an amazingly hard worker, probably the best debater I know (esp. w/ argument diversity, who knew you could read more than two different Ks), & inspires me to attempt to do as much work as he does. much support for clack, doing a great job reviving oregon debate. if anyone's overrated it could be us, 2/6 on bids is a good point. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mavery 0 Report post Posted March 7, 2016 (edited) a little late but shhhhhh Senior you will miss most:dan and cyrus rip Best judge: mark little or erwig Best coach: ^Best squad/school: OESBest team: south ls/clack/oesjlBest novice team: lincoln is gettin pretty good tbh Best aff team: oes lj/ jonathan reading that death no impact card in da 1acBest neg team: southBest 1a: anybody not meBest 2a: leo saengerBest 1n: leo saenger<-- fireBest 2n: henry lininger dng 2nrs so goodBest kritik debater: south with dem dng and marx 2ns/1ns or jonathan with intralocality wildy stratsBest straight-up policy debater: what is politicsBest negative position: intralocality lulsBest aff: the phallusMost untopical aff: the phallus/welfareFunniest offcase argument you heard: satan K Worst Judge RFD: "vote aff cuz k is nonunique disad"Most persuasive speaker(s): soren with dem 2ars where he walks up and yells at the judgeMost helpful person: jonathan w/ givin me dat wildy file+moreMost hardworking debater: holy shit jonathan does so much work hollaFastest debater: jon is "deceptively fast" -h liningerBest debater overall: definitely jonathan esp at zag and the ever changing neg and aff strats The best team next year: south yupyupSquad to watch out for next year: south yupyup Funniest debater: henry lininger with dem dng rounds and cross ex's Most fun debater to judge/watch: henry liningerMost improved debater: the whole circuit is better this yearMost improved team: south lsMost Underrated team: OES B and all the oak hill teams Most underrated debater: Kacie Lee s/o to her s/o to oak hill for those one off kritik rounds Edited March 7, 2016 by mavery Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cyguy 2 Report post Posted March 7, 2016 OES pretty consistently gets trolled in triples, if they even make it there. Actually, it is usually doubles, thank you very much. That aside, I think Jon is the best debater in the state and one of the most fun people to debate against. He also runs more than just one position on the neg, which is pretty great. I am pretty confident Clack LL will make it to the TOC next year if they go to more bid tournaments. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
henrylininger 33 Report post Posted August 11, 2016 Hey you know what would be cool this year? If everybody disclosed on the wiki (: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
henrylininger 33 Report post Posted August 11, 2016 Hey you know what would be cool this year? If everybody disclosed on the wiki (: 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NovaPlasm 46 Report post Posted August 11, 2016 Hey you know what would be cool this year? If everybody disclosed on the wiki (: already planning on it 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
henrylininger 33 Report post Posted August 11, 2016 already planning on it Beau is the man 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nodulux 54 Report post Posted August 12, 2016 Beau is the man ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
henrylininger 33 Report post Posted August 12, 2016 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Conrad is the man too <3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keagan 36 Report post Posted December 29, 2016 R.I.P. Cross-X, you will be missed just like all of the other stars who passed in 2016 5 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2ac 2 Report post Posted December 29, 2016 Hey you know what would be cool this year? If everybody disclosed on the wiki (: where might a lad find this elusive wiki Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NickDB8 508 Report post Posted December 29, 2016 where might a lad find this elusive wiki https://hspolicy.debatecoaches.org/ 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MuyThai 29 Report post Posted January 2, 2017 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nodulux 54 Report post Posted January 2, 2017 You folks are really starting to tick me off. I have not heard a single thing from any one of you that remotely qualifies as an actual argument. People respond to you, both on this forum, and through your webcam "debates," with nuanced claims and warranted analysis to support said claims, and you return nothing but "Bitch faggot coward lol so butthurt keyboard warrior, hahahah feminists don't know how facts work!" Alright hotshot, I dare you, instead of a meme, to reply with one warranted, fact or logic based claim. Here's a question to start you out; why is a discussion forum for a high-school activity the best platform for your activism? > inb4 "cause you fags don't know how REAL debate works!!!! gotta search for the TRUTH instead of just being in a liberal echo chamber!!!" Listen, we do search for "truth." In policy debate, our activity, literally anything is open for discussion. We debate whether death is good or bad, we debate the solutions to foreign policy issues, we debate racism, sexism, and other structural inequalities from every possible angle. Do you really think that in the decades that competitive debate has been growing and evolving, not one of us has ever considered that debate is a search for truth? We do see it as a search for truth, or at least as a method of exposing ourselves to diverse perspectives. And we have heard your perspective. And we think you are full of shit.So how about it, Mr. FactsandLogic? Gonna "run like a scared little bitch?" Gonna "hide behind mommy's keyboard" and post another vacuous meme because it is easier than actually typing out a coherent thought? I sure hope you don't, cause I really want to see what it looks like when you actually try to put your views into words.PS: Extra points if you can respond without using "coward," "SJW," "faggot," "white knight," "bitch," "cunt," "feminazi," "libtard," etc. I refrained (through great force of will) from calling you names, so for you to call me names would only further demonstrate that you are, contrary to your claims, ruled by emotion, not reason. Which is, I understand, the ultimate sin in a debate, according to you. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NovaPlasm 46 Report post Posted January 2, 2017 i love how fucking pathetic piece of shit faggot cowards like you brag about your debating ability but NOT ONE SINGLE ONE OF YOU PATHETIC FAGGOT COWARDS has stepped up to PROVE IT! unlike you, you pathetic piece of shit, i am able to put my money where my mouth is. now go cry to your mommy. lul 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nodulux 54 Report post Posted January 2, 2017 i love how fucking pathetic piece of shit faggot cowards like you brag about your debating ability but NOT ONE SINGLE ONE OF YOU PATHETIC FAGGOT COWARDS has stepped up to PROVE IT! unlike you, you pathetic piece of shit, i am able to put my money where my mouth is. now go cry to your mommy. My god, you are sad. I gave you the chance to make any sort of intelligent statement. I literally said you could make any freaking statement you liked, as long as it was substantiated. I challenged you to come up with a single statement that wasn't a meme or an insult. You couldn't. I find it incredible that you could possibly accuse us of not "putting our money where our mouth is." You want to know why I won't debate with you over webcam? Not because I am scared. It is because you have proven that you are incapable of actually making an argument. You don't debate, you just throw out insults. Why would I waste an hour of my life trying to talk sense into someone who has proven incapable of making a single actual point? That would just be masochistic. Let me make it clear; I have shown no aversion to debate. In fact, if you can give me a convincing reason why debate in written form is inferior to the verbal debates you are so fond of, I will make time to engage you over webcam. But until you can convince me it would be anything more intellectual than talking to a brick wall (granted, a brick wall capable of saying "lol faggot coward"), I see no point. So, there it is. You didn't have the guts to face the first challenge. How about this one? Give us a little preview of the argumentative smackdowns you seem to believe you can deliver. Make your case as to why I should debate you verbally. If it's based in logic and reason, I'll take you on. But if you respond to this with yet more memes and accusations that I am a "coward" or "keyboard warrior," you will have successfully ruined any credibility you could have possibly had. How the hell do you expect anyone to take your comments about cowardice seriously if you are too scared to debate teenagers on the internet? 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canttouchwarming 3 Report post Posted January 2, 2017 Look kid: 1) You haven't told us what the fuck you want us to debate 2) Policy debate isn't about screaming at each and roasting each other. None of the people on this website claim to do that - rather we compare and contrast evidence to have discussions that aren't racist, sexist, etc. 3) If you want to advertise or whatever, go to reddit or seomthing, because some people would like to utilize threads on this website in a manner that does not involve debating a debater from "Manhood Academy" (After all the picture that you posted does seem to indicate thats it's not for everyone. Just sayin') i love how fucking pathetic piece of shit faggot cowards like you brag about your debating ability but NOT ONE SINGLE ONE OF YOU PATHETIC FAGGOT COWARDS has stepped up to PROVE IT! unlike you, you pathetic piece of shit, i am able to put my money where my mouth is. now go cry to your mommy. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nodulux 54 Report post Posted January 2, 2017 (edited) Look kid: 1) You haven't told us what the fuck you want us to debate 2) Policy debate isn't about screaming at each and roasting each other. None of the people on this website claim to do that - rather we compare and contrast evidence to have discussions that aren't racist, sexist, etc. 3) If you want to advertise or whatever, go to reddit or seomthing, because some people would like to utilize threads on this website in a manner that does not involve debating a debater from "Manhood Academy" (After all the picture that you posted does seem to indicate thats it's not for everyone. Just sayin') Response Predictions: 1) THE TRUTH 2) yeah cause you are a bunch of COWARDS LOLOLOL 3) CENSORSHIP!!!! KILL YOURSELF!!!!! EDIT: And here I thought he was at least capable of line by line analysis Edited January 2, 2017 by Nodulux 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nodulux 54 Report post Posted January 2, 2017 Well, OK, thanks for playing. I actually kinda wanted to debate with you, which is why I set the threshold so low. Yet, as seems to be your special talent, no matter how low the bar is set for rational argumentation, you still somehow squeezed under it. Congratulations; I have never met anyone so incredibly insecure that they are not even willing to write out their opinion. What's the matter? Are you afraid that you might be subjected to actual argumentation? Is it scary to think that you might have to have a conversation in which you can't just yell over the other person with your big manly voice? Oh wait, I know! You are terrified by the prospect that you might not get to cherry pick your best debates, and censor any ones that you get righteously creamed in.If you change your mind and decide to show more intellectual capacity than a Chihuahua, my challenge still stands. And it is pretty clear which of us is not "stepping up." hey cowardly faggot piece of shit, we don't debate keyboard warriors like you wetting your panties. you step up or go back to wetting your panties and sucking on your mommy's nipples Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nodulux 54 Report post Posted January 2, 2017 you're a scared pathetic faggot sissy bitch keyboard warriors LOLOLOL! i already challenged you pathetic faggot cowards a long time ago. only one faggot among you accepted and then he (Maury) BACK OUT LOLOLOL! STILL WAITING for you pathetic little girl Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Theunassumingdebater 0 Report post Posted March 13, 2017 I mean is this even in question anymore? South Eugene is on the coaches poll Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jswegthefuture 85 Report post Posted March 13, 2017 I mean is this even in question anymore? South Eugene is on the coaches poll south is obviously great and is the best every aspect but a) they don't even debate in oregon anymore lol plus for the purpose of other people getting recognition -> here's a list without them: Best judge: mark littleBest coach: mark little Senior you'll miss most: louisBest squad/school: OES Best team: OES LR Best novice team: Marcus' old partner Best aff team: Lake Oswego AJ Best neg team: OES LR Best 1a: Marcus Best 2a: Soren Best 1n: Louis Best 2n: Marcus when he goes for psycho or Soren when he goes for T Best kritik debater: what is a k Best T debater: soren hands downBest straight-up policy debater: soren Best negative position: t-whole rez lol Best aff: obor Most untopical aff: Marcus' baudrillard stuff Most persuasive speaker: soren Most helpful person: louis Most hardworking debater: marcus Fastest debater: i heard the people at lincoln are p speedy Best debater overall: marcus Funniest debater: marcus Most fun debater to judge/watch: soren Most improved team: marcus or soren+louis going from no bids -> a bid plus many bid rounds Next Year's Top Team: soren+partner 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nodulux 54 Report post Posted March 14, 2017 Yeah this is fun, and South gets their kudos, let us have something XD. Best judge: Mark Little, tho Hunter Boelow is sick w. the bantzBest coach: Keith Eddins obv, but Tom Lininger and Mark Little also seem dope Senior you'll miss most: Beau, duh. Also, even tho she doesn't really do policy, Gracia is cool af.Best squad/school: OES or LincolnBest team: OES LRBest novice team: Oak Hill CH (call me biased but I'd like to see your novices go toe-to-toe...)Best aff team: Being completely honest Beau and I have like a 90% win rate on aff so I'll say usBest neg team: OES LRBest 1a: LouisBest 2a: SorenBest 1n: JayBest 2n: Marcus Best kritik debater: Beau in general, Marcus if it's Psychoanalysis Best T debater: IDK we haven't been aff against OES LR this year but Ashok did a pretty legendary T 2NC @ RCRRBest straight-up policy debater: SorenBest negative position: T-QPQ honestly slaysBest aff: Exports tbqhMost untopical aff: So far, Lake-O's Baudrillard (though that may change at state )Most persuasive speaker: Hahahaha SorenMost helpful person: Honestly Jay and Ashok are really nice and helpful always so they tie for thisMost hardworking debater: Probably Marcus, though Lincoln preps hard and Beau goes on bingesFastest debater: Marcus or Ashok for now, but our novice girls are catching up o_OBest debater overall: Soren Funniest debater: Beau says the darndest thingsMost fun debater to judge/watch: SorenMost improved team: Probably Clara and Madeline, they went from mid-tier to one of the best teams in the state, also Clara won GDI O_O Next Year's Top Team: Well IIRC Soren can't compete next year so idek, probably Jay and Ashok 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites