thanksobama 29 Report post Posted February 15, 2015 So, what are some of the best policy affs, that you've debated? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raybadursh 108 Report post Posted February 16, 2015 I like the policy affs that aren't relating to energy, warming, or OSEA. Oh, wait... 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Emmaslaysdragons 22 Report post Posted February 16, 2015 (edited) Best as in most laughable: Santa aff Best as in being an overall good case: LOST Research affs Edited February 16, 2015 by Emmaslaysdragons Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OceanDebater 76 Report post Posted February 16, 2015 I like the policy affs that aren't relating to energy, warming, or OSEA. Oh, wait... So you mean the original cases like icebreakers, ports, and space elevators? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JaredCroitoru 197 Report post Posted February 16, 2015 by far mapping aff's are the bestttt or Marine Spatial Planning but Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nodulux 54 Report post Posted February 16, 2015 Some of the most difficult policy affs I've hit have been Antarctic research ships, Sea Turtle exclusion devices, and algae farming. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nodulux 54 Report post Posted February 16, 2015 Best as in most laughable: Santa aff Best as in being an overall good case: LOST Research affs Why do you say LOST is one of the best? It seems rather open to T, plus there's a lot of on-case evidence for it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Emmaslaysdragons 22 Report post Posted February 17, 2015 Why do you say LOST is one of the best? Because it's simple but strong, lay judges love it, and for all the tournaments I've run it, I've only ever lost with it twice. Also, I've found that having a plethora of knowledge about LOST has helped me a lot in the neg world as well. A lot of plans, like overfishing and most plans that deal with the Arctic and Russia, could be solved better with the ratification of LOST. It seems rather open to T, Sure, but effects t is easy to advocate plus there's a lot of on-case evidence for it Yeah? In my opinion, debates where the neg team has nothing oncase to read against you are no fun. Challenges are enjoyable. And there are answers, I've found that the aff answers are newer and better. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rigbert 107 Report post Posted February 17, 2015 If you're in an area where K's aren't really a thing SSD is pretty cool. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MartyP 812 Report post Posted February 17, 2015 If you're in an area where K's aren't really a thing SSD is pretty cool. So you need a K now to point out that burying nuclear waste underwater cannot possibly end well? 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tommy949 449 Report post Posted February 17, 2015 (edited) SSD is such a fucked up affirmative. The water and the ocean won't like nuclear waste, they have feelings too. As the great indigenous Hopi prophecy said nature will react when it is harmed whether it be through earthquakes, floods, etc because they don't like nuclear waste. It hurts their feelings when they have nuclear waste dumped on them. Edited February 17, 2015 by tommy949 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smitty 20 Report post Posted February 17, 2015 Icebreakers OMEGA Antineutrinos REM Mining I'm glad no one so far has said generic affs like OSW, nat gas, etc. Those affs can die in the camp from which they came Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
feldsy 1099 Report post Posted February 17, 2015 If you're in an area where K's aren't really a thing SSD is pretty cool. I <3 SSD. It's a surpisingly great aff So you need a K now to point out that burying nuclear waste underwater cannot possibly end well? Yes, because if you read the evidence, most (tho far from all) authors conclude the risk of leaks is minimal. Plus no matter what, its a hella of a lot better than what we do now Also the K vs. SSD debates are actually so fun SSD is such a fucked up affirmative. The water and the ocean won't like nuclear waste, they have feelings too. As the great indigenous Hopi prophecy said nature will react when it is harmed whether it be through earthquakes, floods, etc because they don't like nuclear waste. It hurts their feelings when they have nuclear waste dumped on them. notsureifserious 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MartyP 812 Report post Posted February 17, 2015 Icebreakers OMEGA Antineutrinos REM Mining I'm glad no one so far has said generic affs like OSW, nat gas, etc. Those affs can die in the camp from which they came Lol as if OMEGA, REM's, and ice breakers aren't generic camp files. I'd like to point out that Niles North OW runs OSW, so it's clearly not that bad. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobbyTables 298 Report post Posted February 17, 2015 Natural Gas isn't actually a bad aff; it can access most advantages, has fairly coherent internal link chains (admittedly, bridge to renewables is full of shit and energy prices are nonunique in the extreme), and has more of a US key warrant than half the affs on this topic. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smitty 20 Report post Posted February 17, 2015 (edited) Lol as if OMEGA, REM's, and ice breakers aren't generic camp files. I'd like to point out that Niles North OW runs OSW, so it's clearly not that bad. wait so the standard for something being a good case is if a top team ran it? Looks like venezuela oil is a good case!!!! Also OSW is from the college renewables topic Edited February 17, 2015 by Smitty Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
feldsy 1099 Report post Posted February 18, 2015 REM Mining This aff has bascially no unique advantages anymore since China decided to comply with the WTO ruling on REM's I'm glad no one so far has said generic affs like OSW, nat gas, etc. Those affs can die in the camp from which they came Generally the reason Aff's are generic is because they have a lot of solvency advocates, meaning they actually work and make sense. Now I'll be the first to say OSW is pretty awful, but I don't understand why debaters often have this preconception that generic=bad. There are both strategic ups and downs to running generic shtuff Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DisplayName 377 Report post Posted February 20, 2015 Generally the reason Aff's are generic is because they have a lot of solvency advocates, meaning they actually work and make sense. Now I'll be the first to say OSW is pretty awful, but I don't understand why debaters often have this preconception that generic=bad. There are both strategic ups and downs to running generic shtuff LOL OSW is probably one of the best affs on the topic, and I don't even run it. It's hugely successful, the disads are non-existent, it's probably not topical but neither is anything else in this thread, the lit is great on how it solves warming, which is more than can be said for most other things. It's really easy to run as heg/warming which allows you to beat the big stick. It's an excellent aff. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Theparanoiacmachine 1676 Report post Posted February 20, 2015 LOL OSW is probably one of the best affs on the topic, and I don't even run it. It's hugely successful, the disads are non-existent, it's probably not topical but neither is anything else in this thread, the lit is great on how it solves warming, which is more than can be said for most other things. It's really easy to run as heg/warming which allows you to beat the big stick. It's an excellent aff. It's true there is next to disad lit base for OSW, but there are a lot of ridiculous disads that it loses to - for instance, Birds DA, Subsidies DA, etc. - it's a good aff, evidence is constantly being poured on the internet (as Niles North OW has shown); but it's not topical so it'll always lose to T (assuming you know how to debate T) Unless it's adaptation - warming affs are susceptible to various DA's and CP's; Heg affs are always fun, but I'd with Nat Gas or Icebreakers for that (as Icebreakers accesses a Russia scenario) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DisplayName 377 Report post Posted February 20, 2015 but it's not topical so it'll always lose to T (assuming you know how to debate T) You'd be surprised. That's really the only thing they have to answer. I'm saying this having beaten a very good team on T Oceans for OSW. Teams have pretty good justifications for OSW being topical, the problem is the interpretation portion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nodulux 54 Report post Posted February 22, 2015 it's not topical so it'll always lose to T (assuming you know how to debate T) I'm actually curious how OSW is less topical than most other affs. It seems pretty topical to me; I mean, I could fight it on T, but I could fight anything on T. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kylerbuckner 1164 Report post Posted February 23, 2015 NOPP is God. It's like LOST on steroids. Solar Desal is good as well in small proportions, each plant we have costs 21 million, puts off no brine bc we model after a US private country,so we are not susceptible to most of the on case people run plus its easy to run critical advantages. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kylerbuckner 1164 Report post Posted February 23, 2015 I'm actually curious how OSW is less topical than most other affs. It seems pretty topical to me; I mean, I could fight it on T, but I could fight anything on T. you run T on oceans because they don't use the oceans, they harvest the wind on top off the oceans not necessarily anything oceans lol. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nodulux 54 Report post Posted February 23, 2015 you run T on oceans because they don't use the oceans, they harvest the wind on top off the oceans not necessarily anything oceans lol. That seems really sketchy. Like, if you use a T argument that technical, it's not any more un-T than any other aff, right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
