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I'm trying to sharpen my anti-neoliberalism knowledge lol. What is the strongest alternative for neoliberalism? In the context of next years topic, how good do you guys the neolib K will be?

 

 

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The topic doesn't scream neolib k to me, but I'm sure there are solid links out there. I mean I googled Neoliberalism AND Oceans and this was the first result in google scholar:

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0016718503001155

That being said, it probably won't be as popular as it was last year in HS.

 

Alts can depend, sometimes you can even find alts contextualized to specific cases which would probably be the strongest, depending on the quality of the cards.

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Yeah I think neoliberalism will be questionable based on the affirmative. I was thinking it could be viable against alternative energy affs. 

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Neolib is gonna be shit next year. That being said, I figure you'll still probably see someone run it with the indigenous solidarity alt from the LA topic.

 

But for some strange reason I feel like cap will link well this year, I know it's not too common, but I feel like people are really gonna start running it this year

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Neolib is gonna be shit next year. That being said, I figure you'll still probably see someone run it with the indigenous solidarity alt from the LA topic.

But for some strange reason I feel like cap will link well this year, I know it's not too common, but I feel like people are really gonna start running it this year

I'm sure you won't see much Anthro either... Edited by SnarkosaurusRex
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Neolib is gonna be shit next year. That being said, I figure you'll still probably see someone run it with the indigenous solidarity alt from the LA topic.

But for some strange reason I feel like cap will link well this year, I know it's not too common, but I feel like people are really gonna start running it this year

Everything about this post haha
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So no one caught the sarcasm? I guess online isn't the best place to convey tone

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So no one caught the sarcasm? I guess online isn't the best place to convey tone

Fairly sure everyone did, the down vote was almost certainly a mis click considering the person quoted and said "haha."

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Fairly sure everyone did, the down vote was almost certainly a mis click considering the person quoted and said "haha."

Some of the comments led me to believe people thought I was serious, especially when coupled w/ the down vote

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Some of the comments led me to believe people thought I was serious, especially when coupled w/ the down vote

Some of what comments?

The responses went in order

-Continuing the joke

-"Lol"

-"Haha"

 

I'm not seeing it. If it makes you feel better, I'll upvote it, but honestly don't worry about it.

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Some of what comments?

The responses went in order

-Continuing the joke

-"Lol"

-"Haha"

 

I'm not seeing it. If it makes you feel better, I'll upvote it, but honestly don't worry about it.

Only reason I said that was because Miro seems to take everything I say either a little too seriously or puts it under a lot of scrutiny

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The best alternative to neoliberalism is going to be different depending on how exactly your K works. That being said, you might as well just go full cap K on this topic in my opinion. Either way, your better alts are probably going to be the pedagogy one (can't remember the author's name at the moment) or some kind of nuanced reject alt. 

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The best alternative to neoliberalism is going to be different depending on how exactly your K works. That being said, you might as well just go full cap K on this topic in my opinion. Either way, your better alts are probably going to be the pedagogy one (can't remember the author's name at the moment) or some kind of nuanced reject alt. 

maybe something Giroux wrote? He's what comes to mind when I think of neolib and pedagogy

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I don't understand why we're predicting people won't run neolib/cap variants next year (or why they won't be common). Yes, Latin America was a particularly fertile ground for neolib, but not markedly more than oceans. Next year's high school topic is US development (and/or exploration... that might be problematic for neolib, idk) of the oceans. Wind farm affs, oil affs, affs that bolster shipping routes/the navy... basically every aff on the topic I can think of has some sort of plausible link to neolib.

 

 

I didn't run neolib much, but I had some success by running a framework-heavy K. I say this because most of my experience debating neolib comes from being a 2A answering the K, and partly because I don't like dealing with the complexities of a framework debate and partly because I was running an aff very susceptible to neolib (a trade aff with a heg impact), I just impact-turned the K to avoid what I think can quickly become an uphill battle for the aff.

 

So, on the Latin American topic, many teams ran the standard "neolib DA" - Neolib collapsing now (Pineo), aff revives it, that's bad. I think that a more strategic way of running neolib (especially on this topic, where you don't have Latin America specific UQ ev, and you'll have to go for "world revolution" nonsense to win the DA) is as a K of the aff's method and assumptions - the DA scenario is problematic because:

(1) Your uniqueness is going to be garbage (Latin America was different because of the Pink Tide and US SOI/retrenchment scenarios - oceans are not)

(2) The internal link threshold is difficult to quantify (neolib collapsing and aff is neoliberal - that doesn't prove that the aff is significantly neoliberal enough to actually make a difference between neolib's structural decline or survival. It will be incredibly difficult to find any sort of internal link differential specific to an aff/advantage on this topic - maybe sea routes/shipping lanes k2 global capitalism? - which pretty much kills the neolib DA).

 

 

The more successful strat that I've used occasionally and that I found more difficult to answer (not really, because impact turns, but it can become a fuzzy framework debate) is:

- Aff relies on neoliberal way of thinking (insert markets, heg, state link)

- Neoliberalism is bad, the neoliberal mindset is bad, (the aff's agent is bad...), etc.

- Utopian thought good

 

Read indicts of state engagement and turn this into a role of the ballot debate - alternative is to think about counter-neoliberal intellectual strategies, aff is a neoliberal intellectual strategy (this sets up clear competition for the perm debate, if you can refocus the debate from competing policies to competing methodologies). Clearly, fiat is illusory + policy roleplaying fails (evidence on state engagement ceding the political if you want) which takes out the aff's offense on the framework debate, which means the only productive use of the ballot is to reward speech acts that produce the better form of pedagogy in the round.

 

This alt is intentionally ambiguous because it renounces fiat - it's essentially an indict of the aff's presuppositions and a desire for "something else". You shouldn't be required to clearly articulate what that "something else" is if you can make a case that either:

(a) neolib is fundamentally immoral, that's a d-rule - the judge has a prima facia obligation to reject it

or

(B) neolib is really terrible and we can probably figure out something that's better

 

(The analogy when asked "what does the alternative look like" that I always gave is that "we could never possibly predict what the alternative looks like - we just know that neolib is bad. If I were an American in 1830, I wouldn't know what the alternative to slavery looks like, but that doesn't mean slavery isn't wrong and should not be rejected. asking 'how will the world function' in the absence of neoliberalism is like asking 'who will pick the cotton' in the absence of slavery". It's a good way of rhetorically demonstrating how the d-rule should override alt solvency and why utopian thought is good - that is, why ethics/the impact debate should form the basis of the judge's endorsement of the alternative)

 

An alternative that endorses an intellectual approach is probably most strategic, unless, again, you have a very specific neolib DA to the aff (squo collapse of shipping lanes kills global trade kills global capitalism, aff props them up - neg controls uq, alternative is decentralized economic socialism, w/e). It insulates you fairly well from the standard "alternatives fail - Mao and Stalin" impact turns, UQ debate ("slavery's happening now" isn't a reason why it's inevitable - thinking about counterstrategies is more important in the long term than imagining hypothetical scenarios for making slavery more efficient, a la the plan), and aff impacts (via the framework debate and Role of Ballot) - you really only have to win the link and impact, which should not be hard given that both of these could conceivably be the same for every topic (USFG bad, causes poverty).

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