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Nor is it to be thought that man is either the oldest or the last of earth's masters, or that the common bulk of life and substance walks alone. The Old Ones were, the Old Ones are, and the Old Ones shall be. Not in the spaces we know, but between them, they walk serene and primal, undimensioned and to us unseen. Yog-Sothoth knows the gate. Yog-Sothoth is the gate. Yog-Sothoth is the key and guardian of the gate. Past, present, future, all are one in Yog-Sothoth. He knows where the Old Ones broke through of old, and where They shall break through again. He knows where They had trod earth's fields, and where They still tread them, and why no one can behold Them as They tread. By Their smell can men sometimes know Them near, but of Their semblance can no man know, saving only in the features of those They have begotten on mankind; and of those are there many sorts, differing in likeness from man's truest eidolon to that shape without sight or substance which is Them. They walk unseen and foul in lonely places where the Words have been spoken and the Rites howled through at their Seasons. The wind gibbers with Their voices, and the earth mutters with Their consciousness. They bend the forest and crush the city, yet may not forest or city behold the hand that smites. Kadath in the cold waste hath known Them, and what man knows Kadath? The ice desert of the South and the sunken isles of Ocean hold stones whereon Their seal is engraver, but who hath seen the deep frozen city or the sealed tower long garlanded with seaweed and barnacles? Great Cthulhu is Their cousin, yet can he spy Them only dimly. Iä! Shub-Niggurath! As a foulness shall ye know Them. Their hand is at your throats, yet ye see Them not; and Their habitation is even one with your guarded threshold. Yog-Sothoth is the key to the gate, whereby the spheres meet. Man rules now where They ruled once; They shall soon rule where man rules now. After summer is winter, after winter summer. They wait patient and potent, for here shall They reign again.

#truth

Consult The Old Ones CP:

 

NB: Make friends w/ Yoggy & Cthulhu

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#truth

Consult The Old Ones CP:

 

NB: Make friends w/ Yoggy & Cthulhu

 

NB: Find out when the stars are right

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NB: Find out when the stars are right

NB: No mass insanity b/c we don't wander beyond our little isle of knowledge, we let the ©Old ones do it.

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*darts eyes back and forth to make sure no one is watching, then cuts card posted on the thread that's titled, "Horrible arguments"

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Here it is for everyone else - 

 

Ocean policy causes partisan backlash – Republican backlash, industry lobbying, bureaucracy, and administration overreach.

Eilperin 12 (Juliet Eilperin, House of Representatives reporter for the Washington Post, 10/28/12, “National ocean policy sparks partisan fight,†http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/national-ocean-policy-sparks-partisan-fight/2012/10/28/af73e464-17a7-11e2-a55c-39408fbe6a4b_story.html, Keerthi, Acc 6/7/14)

Partisan battles are engulfing the nation’s ocean policy, showing that polarization over environmental issues doesn’t stop at the water’s edge.¶ For years, ocean policy was the preserve of wonks. But President Obama created the first national ocean policy, with a tiny White House staff, and with that set off some fierce election-year fights.¶ Conservative Republicans warn that the administration is determined to expand its regulatory reach and curb the extraction of valuable energy resources, while many Democrats, and their environmentalist allies, argue that the policy will keep the ocean healthy and reduce conflicts over its use.¶ The wrangling threatens to overshadow a fundamental issue — the country’s patchwork approach to managing offshore waters. Twenty-seven federal agencies, representing interests as diverse as farmers and shippers, have some role in governing the oceans. Obama’s July 2010 executive order set up a National Ocean Council, based at the White House, that is designed to reconcile the competing interests of different agencies and ocean users.¶ The policy is already having an impact. The council, for example, is trying to broker a compromise among six federal agencies over the fate of defunct offshore oil rigs in the Gulf of Mexico. Recreational fishermen want the rigs, which attract fish, to stay, but some operators of commercial fishing trawlers consider them a hazard and want them removed.¶ Still, activists invoking the ocean policy to press for federal limits on traditional maritime interests are having little success. The Center for Biological Diversity cited the policy as a reason to slow the speed of vessels traveling through national marine sanctuaries off the California coast. Federal officials denied the petition.¶ During a House Natural Resources Committee hearing on ocean policy last year, the panel’s top Democrat, Rep. Edward J. Markey (Mass.), said that “opposing ocean planning is like opposing air traffic control: You can do it, but it will cause a mess or lead to dire consequences.â€Â¶ Rep. Steve Southerland II (R-Fla.), who is in a tight reelection race, retorted that the policy was “like air traffic control helping coordinate an air invasion on our freedoms.†An environmental group called Ocean Champions is spending hundreds of thousands of dollars to unseat him.¶ The sharp rhetoric puzzles academics such as Boston University biologist Les Kaufman. He contributed to a recent study that showed that using ocean zoning to help design wind farms in Massachusetts Bay could prevent more than $1 million in losses to local fishery and whale-watching operators while allowing wind producers to reap $10 billion in added profits by placing the turbines in the best locations. Massachusetts adopted its own ocean policy, which was introduced by Mitt Romney, the Republican governor at the time, and later embraced by his Democratic successor, Deval L. Patrick.¶ “The whole concept of national ocean policy is to maximize the benefit and minimize the damage. What’s not to love?†Kaufman said, adding that federal officials make decisions about offshore energy production, fisheries and shipping without proper coordination.¶ Nearly a decade ago, two bipartisan commissions called upon the government to coordinate its decisions regarding federal waters, which extend from the roughly three-mile mark where state waters end to 200 miles from shore.¶ When Romney moved to establish ocean zoning in 2005 in Massachusetts, he warned that without it there could be “a Wild West shootout, where projects were permitted on a ‘first come, first served’ basis.â€Â¶ In Washington, however, legislation to create an ocean zoning process failed. The policy set by Obama in 2010 calls for five regions of the country — the Mid-Atlantic, New England, the Caribbean, the West Coast and the Pacific — to set up regional bodies to offer input.¶ White House Council for Environmental Quality spokeswoman Taryn Tuss said the policy does not give the federal government new authority or change congressional mandates. “It simply streamlines implementation of the more than 100 laws and regulations that already affect our oceans.â€Â¶ House Natural Resources Committee Chairman Doc Hastings (R-Wash.) said he is not opposed to a national ocean policy in theory. But he said he is concerned that the administration’s broad definition of what affects the ocean — including runoff from land — could open the door to regulating all inland activities, because “all water going downhill goes into the ocean. . . . That potential could be there.â€Â¶ The House voted in May to block the federal government from spending money on implementing the policy, though the amendment has not passed the Senate.¶ Two influential groups — anglers and energy firms — have joined Republicans in questioning the administration’s approach.¶ In March, ESPN Outdoors published a piece arguing that the policy “could prohibit U.S. citizens from fishing some of the nation’s oceans, coastal areas, Great Lakes, and even inland waters.†The article, which convinced many recreational fishermen that their fishing rights were in jeopardy, should have been labeled an opinion piece, the editor said later.¶ “Fishermen saw this as just another area where fishing was going to be racheted down,†said Michael Leonard, director of ocean resource policy for the American Sportfishing Association, whose 700 members include the nation’s major boat manufacturers, as well as fish and tackle retailers. Leonard added that the White House has solicited some input from anglers since launching the policy and that they will judge the policy once its final implementation plan is released, after the election.¶ The National Ocean Policy Coalition — a group based in Houston that includes oil and gas firms as well as mining, farming and chemical interests — has galvanized industry opposition to the policy. Its vice president works as an energy lobbyist at the law firm Arent Fox; its president and executive director work for the firm HBW Resources, which lobbies for energy and shipping interests.¶ Brent Greenfield, the group’s executive director, said that the public has not had enough input into the development of the policy and that his group worries about “the potential economic impacts of the policy on commercial or recreational activity.â€Â¶ Sarah Cooksey, who is Delaware’s coastal-programs administrator and is slated to co-chair the Mid-Atlantic’s regional planning body, said the policy will streamline application of laws already on the books. “No government wants another layer of bureaucracy,†she said.¶ In Southerland’s reelection race, Ocean Champions has labeled the congressman “Ocean Enemy #1†and sponsored TV ads against him. Jim Clements, a commercial fisherman in the Florida Panhandle district, has mounted billboards against Southerland on the grounds his stance hurts local businesses.¶ Southerland declined to comment for this article.¶ Ocean Champions President David Wilmot said that while most ocean policy fights are regional, this is “the first issue I’ve seen that’s become partisan. I do not think it will be the last.â€

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You monster! How could you?! Someone's going to read that card! Shame on you!

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Oceans is a documentry

Wikipedia, 14 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oceans_%28film%29

Oceans (French: Océans) is a 2009 French nature documentary directed, produced, co-written, and narrated by Jacques Perrin, with Jacques Cluzaud as co-director. The film explores the marine species of Earth's five oceans and reflects on the negative aspects of human activity on the environment. Disneynature released the film in the United States on April 22, 2010 (Earth Day), with narration provided by Pierce Brosnan.[2] It was the nature label's third release following Earth and The Crimson Wing in 2009.[3]Intended for a younger audience, the North American version is twenty minutes shorter than the original French version of the film, which depicts violent massacres of sea animals, recreated through visual effects. Budgeted at around €50 million (US$66 million), it was filmed in over 50 different places and took four years to film.

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Oceans is a documentry

Wikipedia, 14 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oceans_%28film%29

Oceans (French: Océans) is a 2009 French nature documentary directed, produced, co-written, and narrated by Jacques Perrin, with Jacques Cluzaud as co-director. The film explores the marine species of Earth's five oceans and reflects on the negative aspects of human activity on the environment. Disneynature released the film in the United States on April 22, 2010 (Earth Day), with narration provided by Pierce Brosnan.[2] It was the nature label's third release following Earth and The Crimson Wing in 2009.[3]Intended for a younger audience, the North American version is twenty minutes shorter than the original French version of the film, which depicts violent massacres of sea animals, recreated through visual effects. Budgeted at around €50 million (US$66 million), it was filmed in over 50 different places and took four years to film.

Released by Disney...*digs out Baudrillard file*

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I think we've all missed the greatest argument of this topic.  PIC'ing out of "fish" and renaming them seakittens in accordance with PETA's amazing idea that... if we rename them seakittens we're less likely to brutally murder then eat them. Indpendantly solves overfishing. - Gannon

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I think we've all missed the greatest argument of this topic.  PIC'ing out of "fish" and renaming them seakittens in accordance with PETA's amazing idea that... if we rename them seakittens we're less likely to brutally murder then eat them. Indpendantly solves overfishing. - Gannon

 

wow holy crap that's a real thing

 

Alright now y'all have your generic discourse PIK for the year.

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wow holy crap that's a real thing

 

Alright now y'all have your generic discourse PIK for the year.

Oh god, the website's format is awful.

 

But anyways

 

Fish should be officially renamed as Seakittens to strengthen sympathy towards them

PETA 14, http://features.peta.org/PETASeaKittens/about.asp#ixzz36vntkeng Save The Sea Kittens! | About the Campaign | PETA.org (Save The Sea Kittens! | About the Campaign | PETA.org)

People don't seem to like fish. They're slithery and slimy, and they have eyes on either side of their pointy little heads—which is weird, to say the least. Plus, the small ones nibble at your feet when you're swimming, and the big ones—well, the big ones will bite your face off if Jaws is anything to go by.

Of course, if you look at it another way, what all this really means is that fish need to fire their PR guy—stat. Whoever was in charge of creating a positive image for fish needs to go right back to working on the Britney Spears account and leave our scaly little friends alone. You've done enough damage, buddy. We've got it from here. And we're going to start by retiring the old name for good. When your name can also be used as a verb that means driving a hook through your head, it's time for a serious image makeover. And who could possibly want to put a hook through a sea kitten?

 

 

Jaws is a shark, not a fish...

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Oh god, the website's format is awful.

 

But anyways

 

Fish should be officially renamed as Seakittens to strengthen sympathy towards them

PETA 14, http://features.peta.org/PETASeaKittens/about.asp#ixzz36vntkeng Save The Sea Kittens! | About the Campaign | PETA.org (Save The Sea Kittens! | About the Campaign | PETA.org)

People don't seem to like fish. They're slithery and slimy, and they have eyes on either side of their pointy little heads—which is weird, to say the least. Plus, the small ones nibble at your feet when you're swimming, and the big ones—well, the big ones will bite your face off if Jaws is anything to go by.

Of course, if you look at it another way, what all this really means is that fish need to fire their PR guy—stat. Whoever was in charge of creating a positive image for fish needs to go right back to working on the Britney Spears account and leave our scaly little friends alone. You've done enough damage, buddy. We've got it from here. And we're going to start by retiring the old name for good. When your name can also be used as a verb that means driving a hook through your head, it's time for a serious image makeover. And who could possibly want to put a hook through a sea kitten?

 

 

Jaws is a shark, not a fish...

Sharks are a type of fish.  Any reason you didn't underline the part about the name being a verb for driving hooks through their heads?

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Maybe its good, we could also listen to Malthus' theories about population, to save the sharks/whales we must kill them all... #BadArgument

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Am i the only one who would still eat them no matter what?

INB4 joke about the stereotype of Chinese restaurants, cat meat, and "chicken."

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someone needs to read dolphin malthus

 

also, against an XO aff:

T military:

president is a military rank

wikipedia 14  (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commander-in-chief#United_States)

United States

According to Article II, Section 2, Clause I of the Constitution, the President of the United States is Commander-in-chief of the United States Armed Forces.

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