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Ok, so my partner and I are novices heading to regionals this weekend. My partner really has no idea what's going on sometimes since he's new to debate, and I end up writing the 1AR's and never having any prep, so anyone got any advice for regionals?

 

EDIT: Im also the 2A and the 2N. 

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 Ive seen this done before , the thing ive done before is use the other partner for  a person to flow , while making the 1AR during the block 

   that's the best piece of advice i could give having do this alot myself,  if any one has anything better ,please say so

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My partner can't flow very well either. Well, he can kinda, but handwriting= not legible for me. 

 

EDIT: My original post got upvoted since I'm gonna have a struggle this weekend... thank you for your charity cross-x :D

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As someone who's had a LOT of experience with not-so-strong partners, I can agree that that ROYALLY sucks. But, if you could go 4-2 at nats, then you can totally kick ass at regionals. I'm going to suggest something that, god help me, is so unlike me: I'd prewrite some warrant extension analytics for him before regionals. This is normally something I'd be SO against, because I think it's important that people understand what their running vs. just reading whatever's on the screen, but in this instance, it'll give you some stuff to work off of in your 2NRs/2ARs.

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(Delete) But if the first thing doesn't work - just have generic stuff always ready to go 

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 I would then recommend  possibly having a savior  amount of args for generic off case u run - So for an example for an Embargo Aff - just have a way to turn generic DA and actor CP , and for just in general - research russian resurgence bad - there is an ok amount of lit where then u get so good quality things for links/internal link turns 

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As someone who's had a LOT of experience with not-so-strong partners, I can agree that that ROYALLY sucks. But, if you could go 4-2 at nats, then you can totally kick ass at regionals. I'm going to suggest something that, god help me, is so unlike me: I'd prewrite some warrant extension analytics for him before regionals. This is normally something I'd be SO against, because I think it's important that people understand what their running vs. just reading whatever's on the screen, but in this instance, it'll give you some stuff to work off of in your 2NRs/2ARs.

Hannah, I started with your advice and just cut my finger on one of my keys... damn those edges are share... bad show, bad show indeed. 

 

Just to clarify, I was typing out extensions and somehow cut my finger while doing so... I got an ouchie. 

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Your best bet is to block everything out as far as you can. So during the 1ar he is reading what you would have said or close to it. On the neg I would give him one argument and have him read it in the 1nr in every policy round and another argument for k rounds and make sure they understand the 2 really well

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Hannah, I started with your advice and just cut my finger on one of my keys... damn those edges are share... bad show, bad show indeed. 

 

Just to clarify, I was typing out extensions and somehow cut my finger while doing so... I got an ouchie. 

Hahaha. Let this be a warning to all that typing prewritten analytics for your novies who read but don't understand is DANGEROUS. So don't do it (well except for this time).

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 For the 1NR - i know those pains  

 my advice is similiar if u lean kritikal give ur partner the policy args of the round 

and if ur partner is good kritkal than take case in the 2NC and have fun of 5 mins of a K 

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Your best bet is to block everything out as far as you can. So during the 1ar he is reading what you would have said or close to it. On the neg I would give him one argument and have him read it in the 1nr in every policy round and another argument for k rounds and make sure they understand the 2 really well.

The problem is, he doesn't really apply himself, and forgets what I tell him. I always "take too much on in the 2NC" according to judges, but I can't give him more than one off-case. He's almost got a grasp of some policy arguments, but K's... I'm not going to enjoy those rounds. 

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you could be the 1A. then you can give the 1AR with only part of your prep and just have your partner use blocks for the 2AC. then you have some prep time for the 2AR and worst case scenario you can finish up writing/typing the latter portion of their speech during the beginning of the 2AR. that's what i did for a while when i was in a similar predicament. it worked okay for me, but maybe that's just me.

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you could be the 1A. then you can give the 1AR with only part of your prep and just have your partner use blocks for the 2AC. then you have some prep time for the 2AR and worst case scenario you can finish up writing/typing the latter portion of their speech during the beginning of the 2AR. that's what i did for a while when i was in a similar predicament. it worked okay for me, but maybe that's just me.

In other circuits it's simple to do what you mentioned and just go for it, but I'm in a more difficult predicament. All other circuits get 8-10 min prep time, but Oklahoma only gets 5. I just don't feel comfortable having him taking the 2AR, where he would have to do impact calc, arg comparison, that's not stuff you can just gush out onto a laptop, you make it up on the go, ya know? 

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Ok, so my partner and I are novices heading to regionals this weekend. My partner really has no idea what's going on half the time, and I end up writing the 1AR's and never having any prep, so anyone got any advice for regionals?

 

EDIT: Im also the 2A and the 2N. 

try to use no 2AC prep or keep it minimal, the 2AR is probably the second easiest rebuttal, so save any where from 1:30 to 3 of prep for it depending on how good or bad the round is going, also creating prewritten 1AR extensions from the 2AC would be really helpful for your partner and really important in your situation.

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When I did this last year, I had a partner who could basically just read.

 

 

I would take 6 minutes of prep for the 1ar where we would go through each flow together and instead of being like "make sure you mention this" you have to be more like "write down this argument here" 

Shadow flow the block and use that as the basis for what you're telling them.

 

Also - No 2ac prep.

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I did ins and outs for a year when I was a debater (once upon a time...).  I was new and replacing someone who had quit unexpectedly, so my partner was vastly more experienced. But mostly it was for practical reasons.  I was really good at impact analysis, so being the 2AR made sense, and getting up to speed for the 1AC was the easy part.

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Woah I didn't even know that was allowed

Yep. There's no rules regarding who can give what speech as long as everyone gives two (I don't even know if the 2 speeches thing is a rule, but it probably is.)

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I like the suggestion of an in and out. And if he can spread, have him be the 1N as well. That way, you'll be able to give the harder speeches, AND save all of your prep time. But you'll have to teach him how to prep for the 1NR.

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I've never had a "good" partner throughout my debate career, I get around by making pre-written blocks for their speeches - the Judges always say that my partners speeches are very generic as a result. Although it is hell, it helps you become a better debater since you have to take on two intellectuals that are on, or above, the same level as you so the debates get really fun (and stressful). Also, I spend most of my time reading critical literature and watching debate rounds so I can both argue the K (usually homecut) effectively and strategically - as in I know most of the terminology.

 

Also - You have to, have to, have to, have to give the 2NR and the 2AR - only if you feel you have more experience. 

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