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The most generic advantage/disadvantage has economic decline leading to war, what are some other impacts that are a little bit more realistic then econ collapse leads to nuclear war?

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Unstable economic conditions cause the spread of disease; growth solves

 

Keenan and McDonagh 9 (Fr. James, the Founders Professor of Theology at Boston College, and Enda, Professor of Moral Theology at the Pontifical University at Maynooth, Ireland, “Instability, structural violence and vulnerabilityâ€, http://www.progressio.org.uk/sites/default/files/HIV+instability_2009_0.pdf) KA

Moreover, the virus particularly thrives where there is instability, a notion that we believe is extremely important. Those who are viewed as being ‘marginalised’ in any society are also commonly described as those most at risk for acquiring HIV infection, but we would contend that this characterisation doesn’t quite get to the core of vulnerability to becoming infected with HIV. HIV breeds specifically where there is social instability, whether that means, for example, those who are affected by civil strife, military incursions or liberation armies such as those in Uganda, Haiti, Sudan, or the Congo; those who are refugees in any part of the world; those in the prisons of Russia; those married to South African or Indian truck drivers who themselves live in very unstable worlds; those in debt-ridden nations on the verge of economic collapse; heads of families forced to migrate for employment, and those at home who await them; those who are drug users whose own apprehension of themselves is itself unstable; those who are forced into sexual activity to support their children, their families, or their school fees; those who are overseas workers and fishermen; those who engage in clandestine homosexual activities in homophobic societies or settings; or those girls and young women who are faithful to their marriages or to other stable sexual relationships but whose husbands or partners put them at risk because of external sexual liaisons. In short, if we want to find persons who are at risk of becoming infected by the virus, or already are infected, they are not simply marginalised people. They are people who are vulnerable precisely because their lives and their social settings lack the means and stability needed to live safely in a time of HIV. 2

 

Stagnating economy causes famine

 

Chatterjee 4+ (Nilesh, writer for Diet, “Famineâ€, http://www.diet.com/g/famine) KA

When inadequate food supply in a region causes excessive mortality, the region is in a state of famine. Economic, political, and social forces contribute to the situation. that even with relatively small changes in the food supply, famine has been caused by other economic factors. Each person has an economic "entitlement," a range of different goods that can be acquired with an individual's resources, according to Sen. People starve when their entitlement is not enough to procure the food required to survive. How much the food is available to people depends on income distribution and the ability to provide services that others are willing to pay for. However, this does not mean that the supply of food is irrelevant in the cause of famine. A scarcity of food will usually increase the competition among people to acquire it, and thereby increase its price. For those already close to the margin of hunger and poverty, this may drive them to the point of starvation.

 

 

Unsustained economy causes political instability

 

Mabro 92 (Robert, Department of Economics, Oxford University, The Political Instability of the Middle East and Its Impact on Oil Production and Trade, Energy Studies Review 4(1), p.46) KA

The causes of political instability in the Middle East are many. The first is economic underdevelopment. All countries in North Africa, the Levant, the Arabian Peninsula and the rest of Western Asia are underdeveloped. Oil wealth has not removed this feature. It may have raised standards of living in parts of the region and created a small number of very rich families. But even those Gulf states where per capita incomes are higher than anywhere else in the world are still underdeveloped. Their manpower resources are limited and poorly endowed with technical and professional skills. Their institutions are bureaucratic and inefficient. These economies depend entirely on a single commodity, and lack, therefore, the diversified productive structures capable of sustained economic growth.

 

 

Economic decline would exacerbate tensions between China and the US

 

Symonds 10 (Peter, writer for World Socialist Website, “The dangers of mounting US-China rivalryâ€, http://www.wsws.org/articles/2010/aug2010/pers-a12.shtml) KA

The US has responded to its own historic economic decline by using its military might to try to secure domination in the energy-rich regions of Central Asia and the Middle East, and to counter China through alliances and partnerships stretching from Japan and South Korea through South East Asia to India, Pakistan and Afghanistan. The global economic crisis that erupted in 2007-08 has greatly exacerbated the rivalries between the two powers. Initially, faced with the danger of a financial meltdown, the Obama administration sought assistance from Beijing. As the world’s largest debtor, the US is heavily dependent on the inflow of funds from China. But as the financial turmoil temporarily eased, Washington began to press Beijing on a range of issues, including the revaluation of the Chinese currency, trade and climate change initiatives. At the same time it started to actively intervene within the Asia Pacific region.

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What if the neg reads this on a Spending DA - how would the affirmative Dedev that?

read Dedev in the 2AC on the Spending flow

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I may just be me, but I feel that poverty is the most realistic impact to economic collapse.

 

Econ Collapse Causes Poverty

Moran, November 16, 2012 (Andrew, [Education – Ryerson University and Ludwig von Moses Institute, “U.S. economic collapse condemns 50 million Americans to poverty in 2012â€, http://economiccollapsenews.com/2012/11/16/u-s-economic-collapse-condemns-50-million-americans-to-poverty-in-2012]
Despite the United States federal government’s stimulus programs and various social initiatives, the U.S. Census Bureau released its latest statistics Wednesday in a report titled “America’s Families and Living Arrangements: 2012.†It found that poverty in America is growing far greater than what congress had anticipated. With President Barack Obama being labelled as the “Food Stamps President,†new government data may confirm this notion for his critics. The figures show that the nation’s poverty rate grew from 49 million in 2010 to 49.7 million last year, or 15.1 percent. These figures were calculated using a new method called the Supplemental Poverty Measures that is designed to provide a more enhanced measure of poverty. It includes tallying government aid as income and subtracts medical out-of-pocket fees, child care costs and work-related expenses. The poverty threshold for a two-parent family with two children is between $21,175 and $25,703. Congress had first projected in September that the poverty rate would have dropped to 46.2 million. Not only did it increase, but the number of children living in poverty, which is at 13.4 million, or about 20 percent, only decreased by a very small amount. It isn’t just children who are remaining in poverty, but the number of seniors also living an impoverished lifestyle has remained steady at 6.2 million, or 15.1 percent. Furthermore, the poverty rate among married couples, urban residents, female-headed households, foreign-born non-citizens and residents of the northeast and west slightly rose. Meanwhile, poverty for Caucasians, residents in the south and Midwest and Hispanics declined. A report from the Congressional Research Service (CRS) found that welfare has become the single largest federal expense in the U.S. as it has grown 32 percent in the last four years and hit $1 trillion in 2011. It is more than the national defense, Social Security and Medicare budgets. When President Obama took office, welfare obligations stood at $563 billion, but many welfare programs have increased. For instance, the costliest welfare program is Medicaid, which jumped from $82 billion in 2008 to $296 billion. The food stamps program was second on the list with $75 billion – 47.1 million people are on food stamps. Other social safety nets include child care payments, adoption assistance, foster grandparents, low-income assistance for AIDS patients, weatherization assistance program, Indian health service and more. Arloc Sherman, senior researcher at the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, told Bloomberg News that a lot of government anti-poverty measures have prevented millions of others from becoming impoverished. He wrote late last year that without government assistance the national poverty rate in 2010 would have been 28.6 percent. “If significant federal cutbacks occur, the combination of those cuts, state budget cuts, and ongoing labor-market weakness may drive poverty still higher in the next few years and cause it to remain very high long after the economy recovers,†wrote Sherman in Nov. 2011. Pew Research Center’s Economic Mobility Project published a separate report on the same day that found wealth in the U.S. has dramatically fallen. It concluded that high-income areas lost the greatest amount of wealth by 47 percent from $289,281 in 2007 to $154,000 in 2009. People living in poverty-stricken neighborhoods had their wealth drop from $32,778 in 2007 to $3,000 in 2009. When it comes to states, the Census Bureau found that California is the most likely state to have the highest poverty in the country. This is followed by the District of Columbia, Arizona, Florida and Georgia. Nobel laureate economist Milton Friedman told PBS in an interview that the two biggest factors to lower the poverty levels are the decriminalization of drugs and introducing parental choice in schooling. “Because the place where poverty has been really serious and disastrous for the country has been in the inner cities, and in the inner cities that poverty is driven by the way in which the attempt to prohibit drugs has destroyed the stability and safety of the inner city, and the way in which our school system has shortchanged the low income classes in this country,†explained Friedman in the interview. “I think it’s a scandal what has been happening in the school system so far as lower income classes. The dropout rates, the illiteracy rate, you know literacy in the United States was a lot higher in 1890 than it is now.†Are the poor really that poor, though? In a Fox Business Network segment, host John Stossel interviewed several people waiting at a food pantry and he found that a lot of them admit to having items like air conditioners, video game consoles, televisions and cellphones. Citing Census Bureau statistics and his research, Stossel concluded that “to be poor in America is to live a life better than most have lived through history.â€

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Are the poor really that poor, though? In a Fox Business Network segment, host John Stossel interviewed several people waiting at a food pantry and he found that a lot of them admit to having items like air conditioners, video game consoles, televisions and cellphones. Citing Census Bureau statistics and his research, Stossel concluded that “to be poor in America is to live a life better than most have lived through history.â€[/size]

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Economic collapse initiates an economic shift to life-coherent understandings and sustainable living - try or die before capitalism's profit drive destroys the planet

McMurtry '12 (PhD, FRSC, Professor Emeritus of Philosophy at the University of Guelph, Canada, has written a variety of research tomes on the morality and economic viability of our current economic system) “Behind Global System Collapse: The Life-Blind Structure of Economic Rationality" Mcmurtry, JohnJournal of Business Ethics108. 1 (Jun 2012): 49-60, http://search.proquest.com.proxy.lib.umich.edu/abicomplete/docview/1013609666/13770A022462A90A4D8/5?accountid=14667

In the end, a rational and re-grounded economic theory and practice superannuates theo-capitalism by life-coherent understanding. At its highest level of abstraction, lifecoherent rationality judges by the ‘‘life-coherence principle’’ or consistency with and satisfaction of organic, ecological and social life requirements. 30 Life-coherent economics follows this principle of rationality with respect to its domain of analysis and explanation—the production and distribution of life goods otherwise in short supply. Thus, it does not ignore the most basic parameters of economic order and reproduction in capitalist-system worship, nor attack socially responsible alternatives to it, nor assume its autonomous necessity as ï¬rst commandment. Rather it takes the relevant life coordinates of an economic system into account. It does not therefore leave the means whereby people live to the competitively self-maximizing monetary calculations of private consumer and corporate entities in certitude of the best possible world by the providence of an invisible hand. Nor, as rational, does it assume that atomic choices of private self-maximizers are magically transï¬gured by the autonomous necessity of market laws to the social good…. In the end, life capital is the only real capital, just as life goods are the only real goods. The lost economic ground is provision of otherwise scarce life goods through time—not money-value in commodities and proï¬ts decoupled from life function. Here, Karl Marx has hardly more to offer us than the money-sequence paradigm. Indeed the ï¬rst page of Capital rules out life-value as a consideration in deï¬ning a ‘‘commodity’’ as the necessary middle term of the money sequence of value growth. Marx had not seen in his time the dominant ï¬nancialization of our day where no productive requirement mediates the money sequence, nor had he seen a world in which every level of life-system is in decline from this decoupled money-value growth. Although money-value adding is sweepingly described as ‘‘value adding’’ simpliciter, there could be no greater absurdity in the light of life-coherence requirements. The equation of ‘‘goods’’ to priced commodities for private proï¬t is no less absurd. For it follows from this equation that ever more obesity-causing foods, homicidal weapons, commercial violence games, carcinogenic cosmetics,environment-despoiling leisure machines, and so on are ever more ‘‘goods’’. What more deranged value metric could there be? Logically, it assumes contradictories as equivalent. Morally, it commends and motivates people to do what deforms or destroys their life capacities. Economically, it simultaneously produces degenerate commodities, destroys human capital and wastes healthcare facilities. Yet no ‘‘bads’’ can exist in this system once they sell for a private—the pangloss operator of theo-capitalism. Even the system’s renowned ‘efï¬ciency’ means only less money costs to private money possessors sequencing to more money than they put in—not in fact absence of waste as efï¬ciency actually means. 36 Here too system evil is disclosed. Always taking out more than you put in is a selfevidently parasitic regime. The more the take is and the more it deprives others’ lives, the more immoral and life diseconomic it is. All may intuit this outside superstition of the invisible hand. 37 But once belief in the necessary benevolence of market avarice takes hold, greed is transformed into ‘‘enhanced well-being’’ for society so long as commodity sales occur. Indeed the exchanges for maximum proï¬t—even if by selling toxic junk—is proclaimed to be ‘‘creating wealth’’ by magic-thinking operation. In truth, however, it is not more wealth but more private money demand on wealth which runs life capital down. As ever more invasive money-sequence growth and multiplication metastasizes across domains and borders with no committed function to any life host, a carcinogenic pattern emerges beneath notice. It is in principle a globalizing cancer at the social level of life organization. 38 Yet by leaving all life costs and wastes out of account, systemic depredation of the economy’s social and ecological life capital formations counts as more productive and efï¬cient even as world life and life support systems collapse beneath it. Reason is obliged to ask, what greater inversion of the moral science could there be? What more moronic system of social ordering could exist? 39Money-capital selectors of economic growth thus attack, degrade and pollute what is required for human life to exist and flourish, without the systematic destruction of life capital and goods—that without which all human life suffers life capacity loss by the extent of the deprivation— computing to the value metric. Let us then conclude by identifying all that is at risk the more this system grows without life standards governing it: the atmospheric goods of unpolluted air, sunlight, climate cycles, and seeing-hearing space; the bodily goods of clean water and nourishing food through generational time; the environmental goods of natural and constructed elements contributing to life-supporting and integrated surroundings; the social goods of reliable care through time by life support, healthcare, and security of person; the cultural goods of participant arts, games and community play; and the vocational good of enabling and obliging each to contribute to the provision of these life goods consistent with all’s enjoyment of them. In short, a misnamed system of economic rationality, capital, goods and efï¬ciency is increasingly the reverse of what it assumes, with no capacity within its self-referential paradigm to recognize its ï¬nal disorder.

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The most generic advantage/disadvantage has economic decline leading to war, what are some other impacts that are a little bit more realistic then econ collapse leads to nuclear war?

 

It was only a matter of time, but Royal '10

 

Royal is war...

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