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I've been pretty bored judging rounds this year.  Most teams just go for some variant of T, Neolib K, and some other off-case, and some case attacks.  I feel like I'm missing out on some interesting negative strategies.  Anyone hear any really good neg rounds?

 

EDIT:  They don't have to be GOOD strategies... Just interesting... =)

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Any K that involves a real alternative?  (I mean, 'reject neoliberalism', what does that even mean?  Given their authors and frequently their specific link evidence suggest neoliberalism is just 'trade with other countries', that means the alt is 'no trade ever'?  Erm... how about no?  Of course, if they more strictly defined neoliberalism, they'd lose half their links).

 

More interesting:

Communism bad and communist countries deserve to be shunned.  (Makes vastly more sense against Cuba cases than Neolib).

 

Foreign aid to Extractive States is bad (causes further oppression and exploitation, and increases control of extractive elites).

 

Providing support to the Mexican government caues violence against women (cue Feminism K).

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One off T.

Make it into almost a framework block (minus switchside) and just get really good at T....with like 50 standards

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One off T.

Make it into almost a framework block (minus switchside) and just get really good at T....with like 50 standards

 

Been there done that

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impact turn the whole 1AC for the entire 1NC and block. 

 

mmmmmm impact turns. 

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USFG plan flaw such good much success 10/10 would win TOC

 

Also I saw an urban debate league team perform a really cool rap performance aff/neg. you know it was good because their speech was titled "m.A.A.d. City"

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8 Mins of RVI on aff preemptive framework for there critical offence in the 1AC. never seen it but I've heard about it.

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I love case-specific off case. Unfortunately, all the cool case specific CPs I've seen are our own team's, and I don't want to reveal them (well, now that it's defunct, I enjoyed our TBHA CP + warming impact turn strategy against Mexican Renewables).

 

The closest I've seen from other teams is a politics DA against the IBWC Aff with an impact of stopping the Water Resources Development Act from passing, which effectively turned the SQ into a CP.

 

I'd also like to see more teams put real work into T for little trivial Affs.

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I've seen a 1NC performance that was literally the 1N getting into an argument with their partner and saying absurd stuff and talking to themselves, I recall that they said "what does the fox say?"

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My partner and I tried a new aff out like a month ago, our first round is against one of our districts nats qualifiers. They flash the 1NC, 5 Disads, 2 K's, 2NC another disad and down the whole case... Thankfully the 1nc didn't make it to the K's... that would of been an extremely joyful 1AR.

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ok i love this awful strat i did :

buddhism pik

T/Framework 

Pos Peace 

Left K 

1 thing on Case .....

 

 The thing is we lost awfully - strat i shall never do again

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 and a strat i heard from a novice team at Ho-Flo 

  i think the 1NC was here comes the sun by the beatles .... and case- 

 

 

 appearently they won that round 

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ok i love this awful strat i did :

buddhism pik

T/Framework 

Pos Peace 

Left K 

1 thing on Case .....

 

 The thing is we lost awfully - strat i shall never do again

What is this, I don't even.

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My patented 70-off strat, guaranteed to win you every round or your money back*

 

*some restrictions apply

 

1)Agent

2)Author
3)Ballot
4)Budget
5)Bush
Death
Discourse
Enforcement
Evidence
Exact Significance
Fiat
Funding
Ground
Harms
Impact
Implementation
Individual Microagents
Inherent Barrier/Inherency
Jurisdiction
20)Justification
Kritikal
Location
Objective
Over-
Paradigm
Parameter
Passage
Politics
Plan
30)Qualification
Resolution
Solvency Advocate
Specification
Support
Time
Topicality
Under
Vagueness
Veto

40)Loser Specification - LSPEC (Key to reason to debate ground)

Camp Specification - CSPEC (Key to pull the case neg up on my laptop)
Speaker Point Specification - SPOSPEC (Key to know if I should stay for the award ceremony)
Currency Specification - CSPEC (Key to my euro cp ground)
People Specification - PSPEC (Key to know who won't follow the plan to take out solvency)
Religion Specification - RSPEC (Key to my allah cp and jesus DA)
Neg Strategy Specification - NSTRASPEC (Key to know how to beat the aff)
Concede Specification - CSPEC (Key to know what to run against affs to make them concede rounds)
Legal Powers Specification - LPOSPEC (Key to know what process cps there are)
Link Specification - LSPEC (Key to know what the plan links to so they can't link turn a DA)

50)Philosophy SPEC

Bill SPEC 

Carrier Spec - does not spec how the bill will get to the White House, denying solvency takeouts like "terrorists will steal plan and burn it before the prez can sign" 

Date Spec

Timeframe Spec
International opinon for plan spec

USFG = United States Faceter's Guild 
USFG = United States Federal Government 
USFG = United States Financial Group, Inc 
USFG = United States Fish and Game
60)USFG = University Student Fibers Guild

N-Spec - What type of nuclear weapons will be used in their nuclear war impacts. Key to ground over effectiveness/destructiveness of Nuke War.

Jargon-SPEC, aff must explain all debate jargon in laymen's terms before using it; key to understanding plan because I'm a novice.

2AR-SPEC, aff must speciy what they'll go for in the 2AR
Diet-SPEC, aff must specify if they're vegetarians, vegans, etc.

Boxer/Brief Spec

Gender Spec (1ac specs sex of both aff debaters)
67)Spec Spec

 

And of course Time Cube and Consult Ashtar (68 and 69)

 

Mao K makes 70.

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 i Have done much worse then my strat i put up : The golden 1NC of novice year 

1off Death Cult 

 Inhrency-Embargo

turns each impact  -with linear da

 

 ..... 

 

  I think we won that round by a longshot ....

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I don't want to make everyone scroll more, but "pretend I quoted the 70 Off strat."

 

1-39 have like 5 arguments and then just a bunch of words.  Explain.

 

But carrier spec and camp spec are definitely my 2NR with this strat.

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Any K that involves a real alternative?  (I mean, 'reject neoliberalism', what does that even mean?  Given their authors and frequently their specific link evidence suggest neoliberalism is just 'trade with other countries', that means the alt is 'no trade ever'?  Erm... how about no?  Of course, if they more strictly defined neoliberalism, they'd lose half their links).

Neolib certainly can involve a real alternative, although it commonly doesn't. I would agree that sometimes the links seem a bit far-fetched for how I would define neoliberalism, but I would also say that a lot of free trade with Latin American has been motivated by neoliberalism.

 

You should look at the Mondragon corporation as a potential concrete example of an alternative (obviously it's not perfect, but it's a start), I used evidence about such a style to contextualize my alt and explain exactly what the world would look like (I try to avoid being one of those "vague" k debaters).

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mondragon_corporation

 

Edit: Just realized I replied to a 4 month old comment. Ha.

#NecroBumpProblems

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I don't want to make everyone scroll more, but "pretend I quoted the 70 Off strat."

 

1-39 have like 5 arguments and then just a bunch of words.  Explain.

 

But carrier spec and camp spec are definitely my 2NR with this strat.

________ spec

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But death cult is one card...

Doesn't have to be....

 

And, there could have been a LOT of work on the case turns

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 the thing is i turned each impact pretty well i should have gone for Turns in the 2NR 

instead i go for Death Cult - 

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we protested our leagues ban on spreading by reading a performance protesting the ruling. We didnt say anything in the 1nc but we gave them cards based on the time it took us to spread the cards. 

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