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Round 576: Atzbo87 (Aff) Vs. Schopenhauer (Neg) [Ti]

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What is included in Marine Transportation System infrastructure?

 

Where does your Lim evidence say US heg is key to check conflict?

why is it?

 

What warrents are given in your NLUS evidence to suggest that naval power solves terrorism, econ, natural disasters, or other conflicts, as the evidence says?

 

You say the Marganois evidence says that you prevent cost overruns.  It only says that Title XI is important. Does the plan result in passing of title XI?

If not how do you prevent cost overruns?

 

People are starving by the millions now, why is your ag impact uniqu? Also previous famines have occurred, why weren’t your impacts seen there?

 

Where does your casavan evidence say US trade is key to the global food supply?

 

When has economic collapse caused war? Why would Russia/China attack us if our econ collapsed?

 

What warrant other than the risk of the fiscal cliff does your mullaney and Davidson evidence give for risk of economic failure being high?

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The bell just rang, I'll get to the last question later. You can still post the 1nc if you want.

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What is included in Marine Transportation System infrastructure?

 

The Marine Transportation System is the collection of our ports, locks, dams, inland waterways, etc

 

 

 

Where does your Lim evidence say US heg is key to check conflict?

why is it?

 

The evidence is stating that our presence in the region, our forward deployed power projection persay, has checked NK since the cold war. It checks NK because heg is key to deterence. That's holmes 11

 

What warrents are given in your NLUS evidence to suggest that naval power solves terrorism, econ, natural disasters, or other conflicts, as the evidence says?

I don't really understand the question. Are you asking me to explain HOW the adv. solves the the laundry list of world problems? The card states that our naval reddiness projects our power internationally and checks global conflicts over resources, terrorism, etc. allowing for free trade which in the end solves for the root cause of these conflicts.

 

You say the Marganois evidence says that you prevent cost overruns.  It only says that Title XI is important. Does the plan result in passing of title XI?

If not how do you prevent cost overruns?

The Marganois evidence says both, "billions of dollars are wasted due to the inability of Navy shipyards to produce sufficient fixed price contracts that are standard in commercial shipbuilding and prevent cost overruns". It also says title XI is the better funding mechanism to solve.

Yes, it's the plan results in the full implementation and funding of the Title XI loan guarantee program.

 

 

People are starving by the millions now, why is your ag impact uniqu? Also previous famines have occurred, why weren’t your impacts seen there?

Because the entire world is not currently starving, so it's unique. The WORLD food supply rests on US agro exports, a collapse causes famine in both first and third world countries. Underdeveloped countries food supply can only be solved better by MTS because it allows more nations to be linked into U.S exports.

 

Where does your casavan evidence say US trade is key to the global food supply?

Which one? Here's from Casavant 2k "with U.S. grains and food products, thus feeding and nourishing a growing world population and helping farmers grow a wide variety of goods to feed a growing world"

 

 

When has economic collapse caused war? Why would Russia/China attack us if our econ collapsed?

Our Friedberg and Schoenfeld card specifically cites WW2 as an example of rogue nations rising in the dust of world economic collapse. This is non comparable to the recession of 08, collapse of MTS means actual world economic depression and it's only our duty to stop it. Russia and China come to risksbecause the card says that in the event of economic collapse authoritraian leaders lash out. If economic protests and riots come to fruition war historically has been the outcome for these despots.

 

What warrant other than the risk of the fiscal cliff does your mullaney and Davidson evidence give for risk of economic failure being high?

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a few clarifications

 

so does the plan directly increase investment in the Title XI program?

 

does the plan build new dams, or increase investment in ones that are like about to collapse?

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a few clarifications

 

so does the plan directly increase investment in the Title XI program?

Yes

 

does the plan build new dams, or increase investment in ones that are like about to collapse?

There is both maintenance of new dams and investment in additional parts of the MTS system

 

 

Now for 1nc cx:

 

 

1. Is the fiat double bind saying that the impacts are triggered before we solve for them?

2. Whats the status of the k?

3. Is the K a floating pik?

4. Your entire K is based around this author Chengxin Pan, a Chinese author, from a Chinese University saying China is not a threat. Can you explain how this does not put forth pro-Chinese bias?

4.5. Is the United States motivated by a fear of the Chinese state?

5. Where does your impact card ever specifically say that this mindset guarantees Armageddon? 

6. The impact on the K specifically gives Iraq as an example of American demonstration of hard power, but only talks about the Bush administration's use. Where does the K reference the current administration's use of hard power against securitizing threats? Is soft power also part of the mindset?

7. Does the neg recognize Chinese nuclear capability? 

8. Do dams in the context of the T move water rather then ships?

9. Where does your Sancho 11' card specifically says that CAPITALISM not modern society but the specific economic system of cap destroys value to life? Are you saying that because of capitalism people have literally no reason to live? No enjoyment whatsoever because of the economic state?

10. Your Kaplan 11 evidence says the sea is the vital buffer to aggression, does that not make it important to control?

11. Does your Asian Correspondent 10 card take in account the modern political situation of NK?

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Now for 1nc cx:

 

 

1. Is the fiat double bind saying that the impacts are triggered before we solve for them?

2. Whats the status of the k?

3. Is the K a floating pik?

4. Your entire K is based around this author Chengxin Pan, a Chinese author, from a Chinese University saying China is not a threat. Can you explain how this does not put forth pro-Chinese bias?

4.5. Is the United States motivated by a fear of the Chinese state?

5. Where does your impact card ever specifically say that this mindset guarantees Armageddon? 

6. The impact on the K specifically gives Iraq as an example of American demonstration of hard power, but only talks about the Bush administration's use. Where does the K reference the current administration's use of hard power against securitizing threats? Is soft power also part of the mindset?

7. Does the neg recognize Chinese nuclear capability? 

8. Do dams in the context of the T move water rather then ships?

9. Where does your Sancho 11' card specifically says that CAPITALISM not modern society but the specific economic system of cap destroys value to life? Are you saying that because of capitalism people have literally no reason to live? No enjoyment whatsoever because of the economic state?

10. Your Kaplan 11 evidence says the sea is the vital buffer to aggression, does that not make it important to control?

11. Does your Asian Correspondent 10 card take in account the modern political situation of NK?

so...

 

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case- sea causes violence? 

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never mind. that was the right one. i'll answer cross x in a sec

sorry about not posting it to the thread, i had the wrong window open

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Now for 1nc cx:

 

 

1. Is the fiat double bind saying that the impacts are triggered before we solve for them?

That is one part of the argument. 

2. Whats the status of the k?

the K is conditional

3. Is the K a floating pik?

I will not advocate that the alt and the plan can co-exist. 

4. Your entire K is based around this author Chengxin Pan, a Chinese author, from a Chinese University saying China is not a threat. Can you explain how this does not put forth pro-Chinese bias?

dude just because his name is chinese doesn't mean he's super biased. he got his doctorate in political science and international relations (which on its own should qualify him) from the Australian National University as well. that's not Chinese, it's australian.  http://www.anu.edu.au .Although he did go to a chinese university for a while, it doesn't mean he should be discredited. i'm sure a good chunk of your sources have something to do with either maritime infrastructure or the navy, but i don't think that necessarily discredits them. also He is a member of the Australian Institute of International Affairs. plus if you read the cards he sights american sources (like when he's talking about how US sources often exaggerate Chinese military spending) and makes references to well known historical facts. finally, if he is a little biased while being correct, it shouldn't discredit him. 

4.5. Is the United States motivated by a fear of the Chinese state?

in a some ways yes.

5. Where does your impact card ever specifically say that this mindset guarantees Armageddon? 

I think he says armageddon in the card, but the main impact is ongoing violence and war in the name of security. he talks about how the mindset of a china threat is the same mindset that justified the invasion of Iraq and the hundreds of thousands of deaths that followed.

6. The impact on the K specifically gives Iraq as an example of American demonstration of hard power, but only talks about the Bush administration's use. Where does the K reference the current administration's use of hard power against securitizing threats? Is soft power also part of the mindset?

the difference between the bush administrations use of our military isn't far from it's current use. we are still in Iraq, and are killing more and more people with drone strikes and other military tactics. the mindset isn't about soft power or hard power, it's about how we view china. Also it's not really about the administration in charge, it's about the logic used to justify war.

7. Does the neg recognize Chinese nuclear capability?

It depends on what you mean by that, i mean i know they have some nuclear weapons. further clarification would help me answer that question. 

8. Do dams in the context of the T move water rather then ships?

I don't know what you mean here. Dams don't move water or ships really, they are obstructions in the path of something. the extra T arg is that you said you increase investment in dams, and the neg interp is that Dams are not included in the rez.

9. Where does your Sancho 11' card specifically says that CAPITALISM not modern society but the specific economic system of cap destroys value to life? Are you saying that because of capitalism people have literally no reason to live? No enjoyment whatsoever because of the economic state?

Sancho is talking about a bit of both. he criticizes modern capitalism. and even if you win the argument that he is just criticizing modern society, dedev probably solves. and ya it's a value to life argument. 

10. Your Kaplan 11 evidence says the sea is the vital buffer to aggression, does that not make it important to control?

It only makes the argument that conflicts are far less likely to occur. that means there is no need to secure more than we already have against other nations navies 

11. Does your Asian Correspondent 10 card take in account the modern political situation of NK?

it's predictive evidence. in the past years North Korea has been edging closer to the negotiating table and that trend will continue. recently they said they had the ability to nuke us and showed some pictures of them working on a computer that looks older than my house, but they do that fairly frequently and really have never followed up seriously. 

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Where did you have a reason to reject the team on the fiat theory?

 

Why don’t I even get to talk about framework?

 

You say “the only consequences of the plan are whatever disadvantages you present in the roundâ€

Do I not get K’s?

 

What is your definition of a dam?

What is your definition of a water way?

 

Why shouldn’t I be able to read T?

Should T never be read?

 

Could you explain your interpretation on the pan K?

 

How is the Aff for real world then the neg  if you pretend that the government passes some random policy?

 

What is the difference between bravery against china and fear of china?

 

On the [Owen 2] card- what is IR?

 

What Is the difference between problem driven approaches and theory driven approaches?

 

Your Tuthail 96 card says “Theoretical debates at academic conferences are important to academics.†Why is this a reason to reject the K?

 

[bacevich] says “idealism-whether the left liberal variant that emphasizes humanitarian interventionism or the neoconservative version that urges using American power to promote American values-provides no escape from the moral pitfalls of statecraft.†This is clearly in the context of idealism used to justify US intervention in foreign affairs. He then goes on to talk about the gunning down of women and children by US forces. How does this possibly apply to the K?

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