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The five most recent major tournaments are going to be the key at predicting what happens at the TOC. 

 

It's rather clear that Stratford consistently out debates top teams; 

Greenhill PS is obviously incredibly good in high stakes out rounds, which is indicative of thorough preparation, a strong command of probative evidence and a powerful analytic ability to communicate those warrants to judges. 

GBN KS are equally smart and prepared but the team has not appeared to be committed, as a team, in major tournaments. 

Kinkaid will be a finals contender only if they out-research Stratford -- Stratford is just hands-down the technically best team in the country and incredibly good at talking about their cards.  Where Stratford will fall is when a team brings forth a strategy that they're not prepared for and researches the cards in Stratford's own evidence to have a better sense of what the authors have actually argued. 

Pace ES and Carrolton DS are both very good teams, very smart, good evidence, but they don't reflect the kind of command of the evidence that Kinkaid, Stratford, and Greenhill exhibit.  The TOC is really a test of research discipline and preparation - and Pace will lose to a less skilled team that has out-studied them, e.g. GBS, St, Marks, Chatahoochee. 

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The five most recent major tournaments are going to be the key at predicting what happens at the TOC. 

 

It's rather clear that Stratford consistently out debates top teams; 

Greenhill PS is obviously incredibly good in high stakes out rounds, which is indicative of thorough preparation, a strong command of probative evidence and a powerful analytic ability to communicate those warrants to judges. 

GBN KS are equally smart and prepared but the team has not appeared to be committed, as a team, in major tournaments. 

Kinkaid will be a finals contender only if they out-research Stratford -- Stratford is just hands-down the technically best team in the country and incredibly good at talking about their cards.  Where Stratford will fall is when a team brings forth a strategy that they're not prepared for and researches the cards in Stratford's own evidence to have a better sense of what the authors have actually argued. 

Pace ES and Carrolton DS are both very good teams, very smart, good evidence, but they don't reflect the kind of command of the evidence that Kinkaid, Stratford, and Greenhill exhibit.  The TOC is really a test of research discipline and preparation - and Pace will lose to a less skilled team that has out-studied them, e.g. GBS, St, Marks, Chatahoochee. 

 

idk man, i think St. Mark's is going to have some trouble beating pace at the toc

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I think that pace does have a "command" of their evidence. They do research and have a very good coaching staff at the TOC. The TOC is a tournament in which people often break new arguments that people are unprepared for, so researching and having a command of one's own evidence is probably not as important as usual. Albeit said team should have a grasp of their new aff or off-case positions. The TOC will be very close but Carrolton and Pace definitely have a good chance at the TOC. Pace did lose some debates this season on lack of research, but that also overlooks debates that they have won vs other teams such as stratford or hooch. Again, the playing field is even and Pace could still very well lose early - the post above was way too critical of that team. 

 

Also on a sidenote the pace team does a ton of work - i hear brian klarman is an incredible researcher who works his butt off for everyone at pace, victor cuts alot of good cards, paula does a ton of work, and jordan also does work. 

i bet this person goes to pace

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Does anyone know what happened with Kinkaid? According to the Google spreadsheet, the 2AR consisted of Condo. What forced them to go for condo against only 2 neg advocacies? 

 

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0AigGLMu42q-ddG81eVJ0WElsbWNFTjlkVnRGd1lHZkE&f=true&noheader=true&gid=8

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Does anyone know what happened with Kinkaid? According to the Google spreadsheet, the 2AR consisted of Condo. What forced them to go for condo against only 2 neg advocacies? 

 

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0AigGLMu42q-ddG81eVJ0WElsbWNFTjlkVnRGd1lHZkE&f=true&noheader=true&gid=8

 

See for yourself: http://www.justin.tv/debatecast/b/397463188

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