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Do you think its smart to run an Obama bad politics DA that would argue obama's popularity needs to stay low so that he can't get X passed.

 

do you think a president's popularity will influence his inclination to veto a certain bill?

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This is called reverse politics.

 

It depends on the particular argument. You generally want to use the side that has the larger supporting lit base. Although in my experience, reverse politics tend to have even worse internal links than normal politics DA's

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This is called reverse politics.

 

 

Traditionally, reverse politics refers to a different argument (generally that the status quo would cause a politics disad impact to occur, the counterplan links while the plan doesn't and thus solves this, but the permutation would shield the link)

 

You definitely can read Obama bad politics disads, people don't do this as often, because most plans aren't popular, and the way political capital is debated makes it easier to run Obama good most of the time

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Traditionally, reverse politics refers to a different argument (generally that the status quo would cause a politics disad impact to occur, the counterplan links while the plan doesn't and thus solves this, but the permutation would shield the link)

 

You definitely can read Obama bad politics disads, people don't do this as often, because most plans aren't popular, and the way political capital is debated makes it easier to run Obama good most of the time

 

Would you be able to, on the neg, run a PTX Disad with Obama having high Pocap K2 X bill, and then run Obama Bad 2012, then if they run that Pocap ^ by this plan, you conceed the 1st PTX DA and just strengthen the link to the 2nd?

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Would you be able to, on the neg, run a PTX Disad with Obama having high Pocap K2 X bill, and then run Obama Bad 2012, then if they run that Pocap ^ by this plan, you conceed the 1st PTX DA and just strengthen the link to the 2nd?

Here's what I'm getting. Let's use bill "X"

 

Bill X passing now

Plan unpopular - kills PCAP

Obama needs PCAP to pass bill X

Bill X solves war.

 

Republican winning now

Plan popular for Obama- stirs up black + minority vote

Those votes make Obama win

Obama winning the election is bad

 

...

Plan is popular and unpopular. waitwut

 

and it sounds like you would be conceding a link turn on the first one.

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