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It's legitimate depending on how annoyed the judge will be to hear intrinsicness theory.

 

I only perm politics sometimes when I know the other team will freak out and read a bunch of theory to give them a bit of a timeskew and usually just end up defending it as a glorified no link, if I extend it at all (other than to answer their theory briefly).

 

Overall, it's not a convincing argument and probably isn't worth making if you have judges who won't be receptive to it, they'll probably dock you speaks.

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Overall, it's not a convincing argument

 

Not convincing?

In the words of Steven Murray, if you were to walk up to a Congressman and tell him "You can't possibly vote for this NASA funding bill because you have to vote for this SKFTA bill" he would look at you like you were insane and ask how you got past security.

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Not convincing?

In the words of Steven Murray, if you were to walk up to a Congressman and tell him "You can't possibly vote for this NASA funding bill because you have to vote for this SKFTA bill" he would look at you like you were insane and ask how you got past security.

 

Not convincing in the policy debate sense where it's abusive to shift your advocacy. In the real world, it makes the most sense, but policy debate isn't real world.

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Not convincing in the policy debate sense where it's abusive to shift your advocacy. In the real world, it makes the most sense, but policy debate isn't real world.

 

Not... real world? Sounds kind of like a voting issue...

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Not... real world? Sounds kind of like a voting issue...

The reason that real worldiness is important is because it determines how useful our education is.

 

1. Preserving good policy debate is a prerequisite to getting educated, and understanding whether a policy is good or bad is more important than generic knowledge of the political process because there are other arenas of activism. Also process knowledge is worse than useless unless we're actually supporting good policies.

2. No education is gained through real worldiness in this case - everyone knows that congresspeople can vote for more than one thing and common sense doesn't qualify as education.

 

Despite this, I think the intrinsic perm on politics is a good strategic option because it takes two seconds to read.

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Despite this, I think the intrinsic perm on politics is a good strategic option because it takes two seconds to read.

 

Also because politics is stupid.

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How do you perm the PTX disad? What's the theory behind it?

Somewhere on the disad flow, make the argument: Perm - do the plan and pass [whatever bill the politics DA references]

 

Most teams argue that intrinsicness is justified in this case because the opportunity cost of the politics bill vis a vis the plan is illusory. It does not follow that passage of the plan would somehow cause a rational policymaker to alter the chances of an unrelated bill passing or failing.

 

It is not a particularly strong argument to make - mainly because intrinsic perms are overwhelmingly regarded as a bad thing by most judges.

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Some argue that allowing the negative to attack the process of the plan's passage opens up too much ground for DAs and CPs because there are millions of different things that happen because of passage and that's an impossible burden for the affirmative to have to defend.

 

The negative usually responds by reading links based on backlash to the plan instead of the process of the plan's passage.

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