themaretsky 9 Report post Posted June 15, 2011 Where is the best place to pay for good quality evidence with frequent updates? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
broken 136 Report post Posted June 15, 2011 Where is the best place to pay for good quality evidence with frequent updates? Don't. Stuff like a thursday file for big tournaments is ok and helps with small squads, but for a majority of your ev/strats you should cut it/compile it yourself you have the time it'll make you better at debate 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The X Factor 497 Report post Posted June 15, 2011 I totally agree with the above poster, but just in case you decide to ignore that advice, a cautionary tale. Based on my experience, DO NOT use PlanetDebate for their files. Most of them are mistagged, and even after fixing the tags they're just bad cards that were falsely tagged as a (failed) attempt to make something coherent. I know it sounds harsh but I got a small file from them once just to see the kind of work they do and it was complete rubbish, and everyone else I know who tried the site had a similar experience. Really, you should be using the Open Evidence Project's files to start you off combined with some entirely self-made files, and as you start seeing what arguments are popular on your circuit you can cut new answers to certain arguments based on necessity. That way, by the end of the year you have some solid files enhanced with good answers to the more common arguments, and you know these arguments very well because you cut them. If you don't want to put in a whole ton of work, that's probably the most sensible way to go. 6 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lifeline 53 Report post Posted June 15, 2011 Planet Debate was only good for its politics updates, and now that Strachan provides updates for free, there is basically no use. Their arguments produced before camp can look enticing, but if you wait a few months you'll almost always have access to the same arguments through the open ev project. tl;dr no, unless someone's buying it for you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chaos 2587 Report post Posted June 15, 2011 now that Strachan provides updates for free, there is basically no use. She single handedly took down the last refuge of a major business. That's some quality micropolitics. 5 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Fox On Socks 3928 Report post Posted June 15, 2011 Based on my experience, DO NOT use PlanetDebate for their files. Most of them are mistagged, and even after fixing the tags they're just bad cards that were falsely tagged as a (failed) attempt to make something coherent. I know it sounds harsh but I got a small file from them once just to see the kind of work they do and it was complete rubbish, and everyone else I know who tried the site had a similar experience. Yeah, Planet Debate is pretty bad. Case in point, they once thought that I was a source worth carding. They quoted me (username not real name) citing posts I'd made on a forum. Worse, they mis-quoted and mis-attributed the posts anyway. 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SDDebater 90 Report post Posted June 15, 2011 Yeah, PD is pretty bad. Case in point, they once thought that I was a source worth carding. They quoted me (username not real name) citing posts I'd made on a forum. Worse, they mis-quoted and mis-attributed the posts anyway. Link? I really have to see that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Fox On Socks 3928 Report post Posted June 15, 2011 Link? I really have to see that. November 2010 Planet Debate PF File (Pages 18-19): http://teacher.ocps.net/stan.banks/media/pfnovember%5B1%5D.pdf Posts they lifted those quotes from: http://forums.pfdebate.com/t922/#post13730 (Me, but attributed to "Fox on Sox" not "FoxOnSocks") http://forums.pfdebate.com/t922/#post13756 (Not me, but attributed to "Fox on Sox" in the file) http://forums.pfdebate.com/t922/#post13743 + http://forums.pfdebate.com/t922/#post13749 + http://forums.pfdebate.com/t922/#post13755 (Me plus two others, lumped into one card and attributed to "Fox on Sox") Conclusion, Planet Debate is a joke. 8 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SDDebater 90 Report post Posted June 15, 2011 It's public forum evidence. But yes, yes it is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
themaretsky 9 Report post Posted June 15, 2011 I am going to camp in July so I am sure I will get more than enough resources there. My coach is riding my ass to find a subscription, because this will be our school's second year with a program and it's first year with any kind of competitive policy teams. If you could like me to free evidence projects, that would be really sweet! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SDDebater 90 Report post Posted June 16, 2011 Open Evidence Edit: what I said earlier was wrong, I fixed it though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chaos 2587 Report post Posted June 16, 2011 Search the forum to find stantheman's politics updates website. It's free. I'm not sure if it will continue next year though... 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stantheman 409 Report post Posted June 28, 2011 Search the forum to find stantheman's politics updates website. It's free. I'm not sure if it will continue next year though... hell yes it will--- here's the link Political CAPITAL 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Syeena 22 Report post Posted June 29, 2011 hell yes it will--- here's the link Political CAPITAL wut a tool 1 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stantheman 409 Report post Posted June 29, 2011 wut a tool a tool to win politics debate mabeh. 15 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Fox On Socks 3928 Report post Posted November 16, 2011 I can't wait for SOPA to become law just so I can harass Planet Debate following this example: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2011/11/whats-blacklist-three-sites-sopa-could-put-risk 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
loopey07 5 Report post Posted December 5, 2011 Could anyone link me to Strachan? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The X Factor 497 Report post Posted December 5, 2011 Could anyone link me to Strachan? http://polcap.tumblr.com/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cojoh 169 Report post Posted December 5, 2011 http://polcap.tumblr.com/ The sadface thing is this hasn't really continued... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
perboslice 4 Report post Posted December 5, 2011 you can try the CDE files my team buys them for cx every year. And while I don't necessarily use them, a lot of people on my team do. Although I have to agree with the people above open evidence is really your best bet along with doing the research and finding the evidence yourself Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ButteredMuffin 1440 Report post Posted December 5, 2011 The sadface thing is this hasn't really continued... http://www.cross-x.com/topic/51228-hire-me-on-a-per-file-politics-basis/page__p__840182#entry840182 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
codyarmstrong 114 Report post Posted December 22, 2011 So...about http://polcap.tumblr.com/...is that coming back anytime soon? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ButteredMuffin 1440 Report post Posted December 22, 2011 So...about http://polcap.tumblr.com/...is that coming back anytime soon? see http://www.cross-x.com/topic/51228-hire-me-on-a-per-file-politics-basis/page__p__840182#entry840182 She's working for hire. People need to pay attention Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
