Evan Scribner 25 Report post Posted May 12, 2011 What are some K authors that you think are underused in debate? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheStreet 406 Report post Posted May 12, 2011 What are some K authors that you think are underused in debate? kincheloe, as far as i know nobody has really used him as a main author except us at millard south, i've seen one card in the wave 2 k answers file from the 3nr but it was cut as a straw man to make an argument that the card isn't even talking about. he was the author that we use for the blues epistemology criticism/aff. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ButteredMuffin 1440 Report post Posted May 12, 2011 Ayn Rand /thread 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgorman 92 Report post Posted May 12, 2011 What are some K authors that you think are underused in debate? All of them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
InTheFlesh 101 Report post Posted May 12, 2011 I think Kant could be used more Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nokumura 92 Report post Posted May 12, 2011 I think Kant could be used more No he kant. (see what i did there, see it, huh, see it?) @OP: the debaters themselves. I feel like if you're going to strike the most effective criticism, debaters should use their own voices more, and authors voices less. Truly critical teams can analyse an aff or neg critically with their own ethics, as many of the K authors are often not much more qualified than us highschoolers. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
InTheFlesh 101 Report post Posted May 12, 2011 No he kant. (see what i did there, see it, huh, see it?) Why do you say that? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nokumura 92 Report post Posted May 12, 2011 Why do you say that? For the sake of initiating a pun. I actually don't use his materials simply because I don't view him as a particularly outstanding philosopher (I did like critique of judgement, however.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
InTheFlesh 101 Report post Posted May 12, 2011 For the sake of initiating a pun. I actually don't use his materials simply because I don't view him as a particularly outstanding philosopher (I did like critique of judgement, however.) Gotcha. I think Critique of Pure Reason could be harvested for a whole lot of epistemological indicts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maxpow 811 Report post Posted May 12, 2011 Make arguments without authors. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mld 394 Report post Posted May 12, 2011 Ernesto Laclau and Chantal Mouffe Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
InTheFlesh 101 Report post Posted May 12, 2011 Make arguments without authors. You kinda need warrants at some point, bro Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ButteredMuffin 1440 Report post Posted May 12, 2011 You kinda need warrants at some point, bro This thread is in the critique section. Philosophical/critical arguments just need a logical backing in theory Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
X Spike 489 Report post Posted May 12, 2011 Khalilzad 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ButteredMuffin 1440 Report post Posted May 12, 2011 Khalilzad Thayer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ButteredMuffin 1440 Report post Posted May 12, 2011 But also, Bostrom. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chaos 2587 Report post Posted May 12, 2011 (edited) Arguments just need a logical backing in theory. Fixed. Edit: I fixed mah fix. Edited May 12, 2011 by Chaos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
InTheFlesh 101 Report post Posted May 12, 2011 This thread is in the critique section. Philosophical/critical arguments just need a logical backing in theory That depends on who's judging. I can think of a few judges on my circuit who may be more reluctant to vote on an argument without warrents beyond a highschooler's oppinion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ButteredMuffin 1440 Report post Posted May 12, 2011 That depends on who's judging. I can think of a few judges on my circuit who may be more reluctant to vote on an argument without warrents beyond a highschooler's oppinion. Sounds like theory arguments must not be a thing there Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
X Spike 489 Report post Posted May 12, 2011 Fixed. No, you just quoted part of it without fixing it. You need to capitalize the "A" in "arguments" in order to have truly fixed it. ...biatch. Inb4Kersch 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
InTheFlesh 101 Report post Posted May 12, 2011 Sounds like theory arguments must not be a thing there There's a difference between the two. I've never heard a theory arguments saying that using technology desensitizes people and allowed all mass genocide in the 21st century to occur. That would be a fun round, though haha. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zaudragon 12 Report post Posted May 12, 2011 Ernesto Laclau and Chantal Mouffe Definitely. And other Lacan-ish authors like Jason Glynos. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Needs More Consult Japan 1753 Report post Posted May 12, 2011 Ernesto Laclau and Chantal Mouffe truest post. especially the latter. You kinda need warrants at some point, bro there are more things than just empiricism bro Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Digger 109 Report post Posted May 13, 2011 Heidegger... there's never enough Heidegger. 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
InTheFlesh 101 Report post Posted May 13, 2011 Heidegger... there's never enough Heidegger. Heidegger himself kinda unintentionally indicated why he isn't used more often in debate when he said, "making itself intelligible is suicide for philosophy." It may just be me, but a lot of his writing is really dense and difficult to understand. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
