Rowedan 55 Report post Posted October 22, 2009 As you all know, St Mark's is using the 100 pt. scale for speaker points this year. I like it. This is the conversion I am using. There is a BUNCH of debate about this in the college curcuit, so hit up e-debate for opinion's from people who are smarter than me. 27=70 27.5=75 28=80 28.5=85 etc drop the 2, move decimal over to the right. Allows same levels of gradation among speakers with more variance. Instead of giving two speakers 28.5 because they were both pretty close you can give an 85 and an 87. In terms of college debate, this seems to be a bit lower than most judges, but it is what i am going to use for St. Marks. What does everyone think? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Antonucci23 410 Report post Posted October 22, 2009 As you all know, St Mark's is using the 100 pt. scale for speaker points this year. I like it. This is the conversion I am using. There is a BUNCH of debate about this in the college curcuit, so hit up e-debate for opinion's from people who are smarter than me. 27=70 27.5=75 28=80 28.5=85 etc drop the 2, move decimal over to the right. Allows same levels of gradation among speakers with more variance. Instead of giving two speakers 28.5 because they were both pretty close you can give an 85 and an 87. In terms of college debate, this seems to be a bit lower than most judges, but it is what i am going to use for St. Marks. What does everyone think? I think it's good - Stefan posted something similar to this. (and uniformity is the goal here.) Really, any number of scales would be OK. The problem is a lack of uniformity. 3 big things screw up uniformity: 1. Tab rooms refuse to publish guidelines. I think that's unfortunate. It's your tournament - tell us what you want us to do. 2. Horrible judges who want to prove that they're "tough" or that debate was way better when they won the East Gumption Classic in 93, so refuse to adjust to the scale. These individuals deserve mockery. 3. Judges who want to continue to be pref'd and fear a college judging career in JV. This is at least understandable, although it does suck for all the other children. Some judges, like me, are just temperamentally softies. Ideally, speaker points across a whole field should describe a bell curve. Reasonable humanity means that it will be a distorted bell curve, because no one with a modicum of grace wants to make fine distinctions between "not clearing" and "bottom of the bracket" - they get it, they need to get better, no need to pile on. That said - bell curve with a peak BELOW the clearing level is really what this is supposed to be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Fox On Socks 3928 Report post Posted October 22, 2009 See also http://www.cross-x.com/vb/showthread.php?t=993312 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites