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In the first chapter he talks about how the opressor(government) giving a gift to the opressed(poverty) is an action which further entrenches the relationship between the opressor and the opressed, further entrenching capitalism.

 

That link sounds like "anyone who gives anything to anyone" is bad.

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ya I guess you could could phrase the link like that.

Again, it is not the best link out there, by a long shot.

 

Here is how it could be structured in my opinion

A)USFG continues Capitalism

B)Opressor (USFG) giving gift to opressed (poverty) strengthens the power of the opressor.

C)Cap sucks

 

Yes I realize he talks about education, because he was an educator himself, however his 1st chapter talks about the relationship between an opressor and an opressed party in any situation, not just in an education system. In chapter two he goes in depth on the opressor-opressed relationship in the current banking method of education. His ideas of revolution apply to any revolution, not just a revolution in academia.

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turn:

 

you use the banking method of policy debate to argue freirean ideals

this turns the case as you become the oppressors

plus the negri alt wont work as you need to change the victims not the higher ups

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ya I guess you could could phrase the link like that.

Again, it is not the best link out there, by a long shot.

 

Here is how it could be structured in my opinion

A)USFG continues Capitalism

B)Opressor (USFG) giving gift to opressed (poverty) strengthens the power of the opressor.

C)Cap sucks

 

Yes I realize he talks about education, because he was an educator himself, however his 1st chapter talks about the relationship between an opressor and an opressed party in any situation, not just in an education system. In chapter two he goes in depth on the opressor-opressed relationship in the current banking method of education. His ideas of revolution apply to any revolution, not just a revolution in academia.

 

That's basically a stupid version of the Gift K.

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zizek particularism links work just as well...

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That's basically a stupid version of the Gift K.

 

Yes, that is very true. Sorry for changing the thread kind of, however do you have a gift k file, or maybe send me in the direction of some authors?

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What is zizek's particularism, and where can it be found?

 

Zizek's critique of particularism is based on the idea that challenging capitalism with individual issues, most notably reforms to capitalism, strengthen capitalism in the run long. Zizek thinks we should take a "universal" approach instead of a particular approach, and throw the baby out with the bathwater, in a sense. This link would work well next year because solving poverty would be a particular approach.

 

Zizek writes about this in a ton of places. The books that come to mind are Violence, which has a few good cards about this, and Contingency, Hegemony, Universality, which is written by Zizek, Butler and Laclau. The latter book is an argument between the three of them about whether we should take a particular approach or a universal approach, as well as some other topics. I believe both of these books are available in the Books and Articles subsection of Critiques here on cross-x.

 

Honestly though there are dozens of places where Zizek makes the particularism argument.

 

Yes, that is very true. Sorry for changing the thread kind of, however do you have a gift k file, or maybe send me in the direction of some authors?

 

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?y1mdo0inwzm

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"NEGRI IS IN FUCKING JAIL FOR BLOWING UP A BANK" neg rep.

 

read more current events and recent Italian history and you won't sound like such a stupid fuck stick. Negri is not in jail and he wasn't sent to jail for simply blowing up a bank.

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"DUMBASS. SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE THE ONE WHO SHOULD READ HIS HISTORY. LEARN TO USE WIKIPEDIA YOU FUCKSHIT"

Having just learned how to use wikipedia I found out Negri isn't in jail and wasn't convicted of blowing up a bank. You're so fucking retarded you can't even do research on wikipedia right. Learn How To Read Fuck Stick.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonio_Negri

Antonio ("Toni") Negri (born August 1, 1933) is an Italian Marxist political philosopher.

Negri is perhaps best-known for his co-authorship of Empire and his work on Spinoza. Born in Padua, he became a political philosophy professor in his hometown university. Negri founded Potere Operaio (Worker Power) group in 1969 and was a leading member of the Autonomia Operaia. He was accused in the late 1970s of various charges including being the mastermind of the Red Brigades (BR), involved in the May 1978 assassination of Aldo Moro leader of the Christian-Democrat Party, among others. Negri was later cleared of any links with the BR. He was, however, sentenced to a long-term prison sentence on controversial charges of "association and insurrection against the state." But Negri escaped to France where, protected by the Mitterrand doctrine, he taught at the Université de Vincennes (Paris-VIII) and the Collège International de Philosophie, along with Jacques Derrida, Michel Foucault and Gilles Deleuze. In 1997, he voluntarily returned to Italy to serve the end of his sentence. He now lives between Venice and Paris with his partner, the french philosopher Judith Revel.

 

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The particularism stuff sounds almost exactly like what I was looking for.

I'm also looking for authors who write that welfare is just the government doing a half-assed job at throwing labor a bone. I've found a couple of articles on marxists.org that imply it without ever really going in depth.

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I'm also looking for authors who write that welfare is just the government doing a half-assed job at throwing labor a bone. I've found a couple of articles on marxists.org that imply it without ever really going in depth.

 

Zizek writes about that as well. He phrases it along the lines of "reforms to the system allow the system to continue to function smoothly without having any real change." He writes about this in a lot of different places.

 

Am I the only one that saw this thread and thought "oooh, free-markets good/socialism bad k, that's interesting..."?

 

Objectivism.

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