MGi 4 Report post Posted November 11, 2008 Did the man know the date of the Game? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Fox On Socks 3928 Report post Posted November 11, 2008 Did the man know the date of the Game? Yes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yellowfoot 49 Report post Posted November 12, 2008 Was there more than one game? Are the contents of the first letter instructions for betting? Predictions? Is what the con artist used our guy's money for relevant? Did our guy bet on the winner? Did our guy bet on the loser? Did our guy place a bet on a particular team because of the con artist's predictions/advice? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Fox On Socks 3928 Report post Posted November 12, 2008 Was there more than one game? Yes Are the contents of the first letter instructions for betting? No Predictions? Yes Is what the con artist used our guy's money for relevant? No Did our guy bet on the winner? No Did our guy bet on the loser? Yes Did our guy place a bet on a particular team because of the con artist's predictions/advice? Yes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yellowfoot 49 Report post Posted November 12, 2008 Was there some sort of assurance that the team our guy picked was supposed to win? Are the contents of the second letter just a confirmation of the bet? Did the con artist have any influence on the game? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Fox On Socks 3928 Report post Posted November 12, 2008 Was there some sort of assurance that the team our guy picked was supposed to win? No assurance, as such. Are the contents of the second letter just a confirmation of the bet? No, and to clarify, our man did not make his bet with or via the con man. He made his bet with an unrelated third party. Did the con artist have any influence on the game? No Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yellowfoot 49 Report post Posted November 12, 2008 Were both letters from the con artist? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dub8dude 2142 Report post Posted November 12, 2008 Was the man led to believe the con artist had influence on the game? Was the man led to believe the con artist had insided knowledge relative to the outcome? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Fox On Socks 3928 Report post Posted November 12, 2008 Were both letters from the con artist? This question assumes fact not in evidence Was the man led to believe the con artist had influence on the game? Was the man led to believe the con artist had inside knowledge relative to the outcome? Yes to one of these, but which one is not relevant. Our guy was convinced that the con man knew who would win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shes legal in dog years 1000000038 Report post Posted November 12, 2008 was the man and the conman the same person? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Fox On Socks 3928 Report post Posted November 12, 2008 Was the man and the conman the same person? No Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yellowfoot 49 Report post Posted November 12, 2008 Were either of the letters from the con man? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Fox On Socks 3928 Report post Posted November 12, 2008 Were either of the letters from the con man? Question assumes fact not in evidence... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Studley Dudley 814 Report post Posted November 13, 2008 did the conman send anything through the mail to our original person? If so, was it a letter? Package? Results of the game? Before or after the game had been finished? (dichotomous, not binary question) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Fox On Socks 3928 Report post Posted November 13, 2008 did the conman send anything through the mail to our original person? If so, was it a letter? Yes, we've established that he sent more than one letter to our guy. Package? No Results of the game? Yes, although you didn't specify which game... Before or after the game had been finished? (dichotomous, not binary question) Before, but again, which game... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MGi 4 Report post Posted November 13, 2008 Did the con man actually make a bet? If he would not have been conned would he have received a last letter? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Fox On Socks 3928 Report post Posted November 13, 2008 Did the con man actually make a bet? No If he would not have been conned would he have received a last letter? No Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dub8dude 2142 Report post Posted November 13, 2008 I got it. But im not tellin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Fox On Socks 3928 Report post Posted November 13, 2008 Norris is correct. Though I too am not posting his answer so it's still open. Here are some answers that may help... (21:58:23) ######: did the con man make overtures that he was involved with the contest? (21:58:43) deusdealia: no (21:59:18) ######: is this a real life example? (21:59:39) deusdealia: it's possible in real life, but I don't know of any case where it's happened (22:00:11) deusdealia: and, of course, there's no guarantee it would work in the real world either, but it could Note, Norris informs me that there are real-life examples of this happening (22:00:36) ######: was there only one letter? (22:00:40) deusdealia: no (22:00:51) ######: were there two letters? (22:00:57) deusdealia: no (22:01:16) ######: were there between 3 and 8 letters? (22:01:45) deusdealia: let's say 8 (22:02:33) deusdealia: although this con is possible with a minimum of three letters and increases in effectiveness (for the con) the more letters that are sent) (22:02:51) deusdealia: and there is no maximum (22:03:01) deusdealia: but 8 works for our purposes (22:03:15) ######: did the con mail the letters to other people? (22:04:05) deusdealia: yes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yellowfoot 49 Report post Posted November 14, 2008 Did all of the letters say something different? Did each letter require a response from our guy? Do the other people who the con mailed the letters to matter? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Fox On Socks 3928 Report post Posted November 14, 2008 Did all of the letters say something different? No, but they were not all identical either. Did each letter require a response from our guy? No Do the other people who the con mailed the letters to matter? The people themselves, no, but it is important that the con man sent letters to people besides our guy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yellowfoot 49 Report post Posted November 14, 2008 Were the other people conned as well? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Fox On Socks 3928 Report post Posted November 14, 2008 Were the other people conned as well? No Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NickGill 44 Report post Posted November 15, 2008 Did he talk to someone that got another letter, but with a different response? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Fox On Socks 3928 Report post Posted November 15, 2008 Did he talk to someone that got another letter, but with a different response? No Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
