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Certainly understandable. And this is a high school site, so understandably, people are going to listen to music as if they are 15, and thats okay. So please, don't neg rep this kid for his taste in music - however, you may need to work on the quality on coherency of your postings.

 

Just had to point this out, I'm 21 and out of HS, so I guess thats why I find neg repping for something like that immature. I'm currently on the college debate team and still help out my old HS, thats why I post here.

 

I can see you like harder rock, I also like system of a down. Have you checked Tool?

 

Checked them out? I've seen them live 3 times and have all their cds (bought, not downloaded).

 

If you are into fast, crazy drums - Thomas Pridgen (Zildjin endorsement @ age 9, Berkeley school of music full ride @ 15, youngest graduate @ 19, drummed circles around Dennis Chamber student Tony Royster Jr. at Gospel Chops) just joined the Mars Volta, and is on their new album, The Bedlam in Goliath.

 

As far as Vocals go, I really don't have any recommendations. Im not much a screamy cat, i need a solid voice, like Portugal. The Man

 

For heavier punk rock, i always like The Refused.

 

I hope you find some more music you enjoy while on c-x.

 

Thanks for the advice. I'll be sure to check some of that out.

 

Oh, and Kunzelman, I haven't seen you or anyone else in this thread defend with more than one or two lines their ideas, so why is that burden on me? Besides, you claim I boil everything down to "not fitting in." However, if you re-read my post, you'll find that the ONLY band I said that about was Korn, so did that hurt when you pulled it out of your ass?

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Oh, and Kunzelman, I haven't seen you or anyone else in this thread defend with more than one or two lines their ideas, so why is that burden on me? Besides, you claim I boil everything down to "not fitting in." However, if you re-read my post, you'll find that the ONLY band I said that about was Korn, so did that hurt when you pulled it out of your ass?

 

I'm not going to get into some sort of argument here. I just feel like you're making broad generalizations about what the songs mean. It might also have something to do with the fact that you misinterpret the ideas of some of the philosophers you name drop and the fact that you listen to some terrible middle school quality music. I suppose my main problem with the whole thing is that it just seems like you're saying "Aaaagh, I like PHILOSOPHY because I am full of ANGST and HATRED for the WORLD THAT YOU LIVE IN. I AM SO DIFFERENT!"

 

Admittedly, a large amount of philosophy is about being different and finding alternatives to the thought processes that are indoctrinated in current society. I am simply tired of all of the shallow interpretation and lack of thought and understanding that (rarely) happens in this forum.

 

Crrraaaaaaaaaaaawling....

Exactly.

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I'm not going to get into some sort of argument here. I just feel like you're making broad generalizations about what the songs mean. It might also have something to do with the fact that you misinterpret the ideas of some of the philosophers you name drop and the fact that you listen to some terrible middle school quality music. I suppose my main problem with the whole thing is that it just seems like you're saying "Aaaagh, I like PHILOSOPHY because I am full of ANGST and HATRED for the WORLD THAT YOU LIVE IN. I AM SO DIFFERENT!"

 

Admittedly, a large amount of philosophy is about being different and finding alternatives to the thought processes that are indoctrinated in current society. I am simply tired of all of the shallow interpretation and lack of thought and understanding that (rarely) happens in this forum.

 

Wow, if this is what you got from my post then you really need to re-read it. First of all, this thread is about music that reminds you of philosophy, not "music YOU LIKE that reminds you of philosophy." I personally don't listen to Manson, Korn, Slipknot, SOAD or some others I listed. I've heard their music, and when I do it reminds me of Nietzsche's anti-religion and Overman principals, Sartre's hopelessness or even Queer theory. If you believe that I'm oversimplifying these philosophers then so be it, I'm just saying that when I hear this music it REMINDS me of them, not that the music has anything to do with the philosophies themselves per say. Besides, most of the philosophers I listed are very angst-ridden and do talk about problems in this world, and so are/do the songs. Whether you like it or not, the correlation can be made. I'm not going to go through each individual philosopher and give a 3 page explanation of what they said just to link it to a song, I'm taking an overarching (and admittedly simplified) theme from their thoughts and seeing that a song/artist REMINDS me of this theme.

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Wow, if this is what you got from my post then you really need to re-read it. First of all, this thread is about music that reminds you of philosophy, not "music YOU LIKE that reminds you of philosophy." I personally don't listen to Manson, Korn, Slipknot, SOAD or some others I listed despite the fact that I defend their artistic credibility to retired in an above post. I've heard their music, and when I do it reminds me of Nietzsche's anti-religion and Overman principals, Sartre's hopelessness or even Queer theory. If you believe that I'm oversimplifying these philosophers then so be it, I'm just saying that when I hear this music it REMINDS me of them, not that the music has anything to do with the philosophies themselves per say. Besides, most of the philosophers I listed are very angst-ridden and do talk about problems in this world, and so are/do the songs. Whether you like it or not, the correlation can be made. I'm not going to go through each individual philosopher and give a 3 page explanation of what they said just to link it to a song, I'm taking an overarching (and admittedly simplified) theme from their thoughts and seeing that a song/artist REMINDS me of this theme.

Fine. You "win".

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I personally don't listen to Manson, Korn, Slipknot, SOAD or some others I listed. I've heard their music, and when I do it reminds me of Nietzsche's anti-religion and Overman principals, Sartre's hopelessness or even Queer theory.

 

I'm sorry for the double post but I just have to call this out. If you don't listen to some of the bands you listed then why are they in your "Favorite Albums" post in the Art forum?

 

Iowa - Slipknot

The Cold White Light - Sentenced

XX - Mushroomhead

Mutter - Rammstein

The Black Halo - Kamelot (Faust)

Cruelty and the Beast - Cradle of Filth (Bathory)

Lateralus - Tool

Consign to Oblivion - Epica

Slipknot - s/t

Antichrist Superstar - Marilyn Manson

Reign in Blood - Slayer

Midian - Cradle of Filth

 

And please don't say that you don't like them. They couldn't be your favorite album without you listening to them. I'm done.

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TOOL reminds me of every interesting K rolled into one. A healthy dose of Zizek with some postmodernism and a touch of nihilism. I've contemplated playing the song "Vicarious" in round as part of a Zizek disaster porn strategy, in my weaker moments where I feel like playing song clips instead of reading cards (see: JV nats and CEDA last year).

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Though not necessarily related to critical literature, Laura Marling's "Cross Your Fingers" has a lot of Judeo-Christian ideas in it. Though not a religious song in nature (if it was I more than likely wouldn't listen to it) it contains the line "I'll jump into your grave and die/at my word you'll give up your whole life for me/you'll be reborn bigger and stronger" which alludes pretty heavily to the resurrection idea. I think it provides a nice angle on the whole thing musically in that it's for love, that "you" embrace death for the love of the Speaker and the speaker knows that. In my mind I liken that to State control; "I know you will sacrifice yourself for the greater good which you perceive to be your benefit." That's how I see it anyway.

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TOOL reminds me of every interesting K rolled into one. A healthy dose of Zizek with some postmodernism and a touch of nihilism. I've contemplated playing the song "Vicarious" in round as part of a Zizek disaster porn strategy, in my weaker moments where I feel like playing song clips instead of reading cards (see: JV nats and CEDA last year).

 

THIS!!!

 

i wrote a slideshow aff for nationals about this from last year. Want to see what it looked like?

 

interesting sidenote: vicarious is almost exactly 1ac time. Add in "Useful Idiot" at the beginning, and you have a case.

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"Hey Man Nice Shot" - Filter

 

I can't think of any author thats related to it, but its a good co-option answer and a good argument for continuing the SQ and nothing will change

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