l33t357 14 Report post Posted June 14, 2007 On LSA, the text is establishing compulsory service learning curriculum in preservice teacher education the common advantage is racism, the lesser is human rights Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Banana Phone 18 Report post Posted June 16, 2007 Depending on your judges, you could run fiat T on the fact that such a plan involves fiating state governments to establish education policy...the trick is pre-empting the 2AC's inevitable "USFG will coerce states by threatening to withhold money" argument by saying that the aff cannot guarantee that, so they are untopical. It might not work, so see how open your judge is to theory. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nolongerused 52 Report post Posted June 17, 2007 Depending on your judges, you could run fiat T on the fact that such a plan involves fiating state governments to establish education policy...the trick is pre-empting the 2AC's inevitable "USFG will coerce states by threatening to withhold money" argument by saying that the aff cannot guarantee that, so they are untopical. It might not work, so see how open your judge is to theory. You could use the elastic clause to justify it, I mean, the implementation is not something a judge will necessary buy as an argument. Either way, you wouldn't run this as a topical argument but rather a procedural argument, like perhaps being unconstitutional. You need to be able to substantially prove the harms, though, and that's the real problem. If the aff gets up there in the 2AC and says your economy DA doesn't apply because only one state will implement it, then you have a story. But if they defend all states implementing the plan, then what's the abuse? Look at NCLB. Basically all of the states are attempting to follow its mandates, which proves that this sort of coercion does work, even if it's not "theoretically" guaranteed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reichert_matthew 13 Report post Posted June 19, 2007 Depending on your judges, you could run fiat T on the fact that such a plan involves fiating state governments to establish education policy...the trick is pre-empting the 2AC's inevitable "USFG will coerce states by threatening to withhold money" argument by saying that the aff cannot guarantee that, so they are untopical. It might not work, so see how open your judge is to theory. what is FIAT T and what word does it define.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
biopower 49 Report post Posted June 19, 2007 ya man i heard one of those monticello teams dropped to that FIAT T...its a bitch i mean the statism disad is always a good choice Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bluey 113 Report post Posted June 19, 2007 I'm not particularly familiar with this version of the SL LSA aff, but CPing to fund whatever SL they fund in another country is always an option. NB ptix, w/e. Someone tell me if I'm totally off--like I said I don't know this particular case Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
biopower 49 Report post Posted June 19, 2007 I'm not particularly familiar with this version of the SL LSA aff, but CPing to fund whatever SL they fund in another country is always an option. NB ptix, w/e.Someone tell me if I'm totally off--like I said I don't know this particular case thats an NFLs strat right there. im thinkin FIAT T is still choice... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reichert_matthew 13 Report post Posted June 19, 2007 I'm not particularly familiar with this version of the SL LSA aff, but CPing to fund whatever SL they fund in another country is always an option. NB ptix, w/e.Someone tell me if I'm totally off--like I said I don't know this particular case that makes absolutely no sense Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CardboardSword42 20 Report post Posted June 19, 2007 that makes absolutely no sense I think he means a counter plan like have China fund LSA at whatever level the aff specifies in the plan text. It still doesn't make much sense Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reichert_matthew 13 Report post Posted June 19, 2007 yeah man ill run that argument with the fiat T....NOT Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
biopower 49 Report post Posted June 19, 2007 I think he means a counter plan like have China fund LSA at whatever level the aff specifies in the plan text. It still doesn't make much sense iran funds the plan, adventurism NB 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bluey 113 Report post Posted June 19, 2007 no guys, sorry that wasn't clear plan text: have US fund service learning CP: have Canada fund service learning (like for canada--there are comparable organizations in canada and the UK to LSA, not have foreign country fund for US) Generally the solvency ev isn't specific to the US obviously--it's just like service learning engages people, gets them involved in the "political," helps break down racism w/e Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reichert_matthew 13 Report post Posted June 19, 2007 CHINA WHY CHINA.... HERES A LIST OF 5 GREAT ORGANIZATIONS THAT CAN FUND INDONESIA ZOO LOO NATION the great nation of BADISSIE Uganda PHSSL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
biopower 49 Report post Posted June 19, 2007 CHINA WHY CHINA.... HERES A LIST OF 5 GREAT ORGANIZATIONS THAT CAN FUND INDONESIA ZOO LOO NATION the great nation of BADISSIE Uganda PHSSL dont forget the late rick james and also max katz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
