kritikingforlife 22 Report post Posted October 23, 2004 What would y'all think about an aff that establishes a UNPKO in federal indian country? The solvency would probably be contingent on Zizek's argument about reading the state's excess against itself (holding the letter of the law to the Law) and his stuff about why striking at self is good as well as all the Ward Churchill args about decolonization and how thats the first step towards breaking down imperialism. Any opinions/ideas/suggestions? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shes legal in dog years 1000000038 Report post Posted October 23, 2004 Sounds good, make sure that you hvae indian genocide well block out for. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WGLF 516 Report post Posted October 24, 2004 DUMB. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shes legal in dog years 1000000038 Report post Posted October 24, 2004 Coming from you... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WGLF 516 Report post Posted October 24, 2004 COMING FROM US SHOULD MAKE IT ALL THE MORE CREDIBLE. WE KNOW MORE ABOUT DABAIT THAN ANYONE EVER. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shes legal in dog years 1000000038 Report post Posted October 24, 2004 oo sorry Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WGLF 516 Report post Posted October 24, 2004 THAT'S RIGHT,TRICK Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shes legal in dog years 1000000038 Report post Posted October 24, 2004 i wanna be a WGLF now!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swaminarayan 18 Report post Posted October 24, 2004 bad....very bad. Not topical for one. Loses on the procedural level even before you get to the zizek. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WGLF 516 Report post Posted October 24, 2004 AND ONCE YOU GET TO ZIZEK, YOU LOSE. THEN YOU LOSE WHEN SOMEONE STANDS UP AND SAYS ANYTHING THAT ISN'T ASPEC. THEN YOU LOSE BECAUSE YOU GAIN A REPUTATION FOR BEING STUPID. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dziegler 1548 Report post Posted October 24, 2004 Solvency - can't prove that the UN will sponsor a pko in US India territory. Inherency - no genocide now Harms - Indians making billions from casinos and tax exemption K - you don't call them Native Americans T - effects as hell Sig - native americans have been suppressed, enslaved, genocidally killed, and worshipped by society, with no terminal impacts of any kind. DA - your plan kills Native American casinos, bankrupting economy DA - your plan hurts Native American sovereignty, NA backlash = civil war and secession Independent Voter - stupidity of case and the downfall of education The list kinda goes on on this... even the dumbest arguments could beat this aff. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WGLF 516 Report post Posted October 24, 2004 WOW. THAT LIST OF 1NC ARGUMENTS WAS ALMOST AS BAD AS THE ORIGINAL AFF IDEA. WE'LL THROW YOU A BONE. THE 1NC SHOULD STAND UP AND EAT THE PLAN TEXT, RANT ABOUT THE IMP/EXPLOSION OF THE SUN, READ SOME BATAILLE, QUOTE ROLANDO PEREZ, THROW EGGS AT RETARDS, CROSS READ THEIR EVIDENCE TO COOPT THEIR IMPACTS, MAKE JOKES ABOUT ZIZEK BEING A COKEHEAD WHO'S ESTRANGED WIFE WROTE MOST OF HIS WORKS,CRITICIZE THEM FOR NOT SPECIFYING WHETHER OR NOT ROBOTS WORSHIP GOD OR THEIR MASTERS POST PLAN, RANT ABOUT THE TIMECUBE, SHIT ON THEIR FIAT BLOCKS, PREFORM DRUNKEN INDIANESS AND THEN TELL THE OTHER TEAM TO WEAR A FUCKING RIBBON. THE 2NC SHOULD ONLY GO FOR NEW COUNTERPLANS, AND THE 1NR SHOULD EXTEND ROBOT THEOLOGY SPECIFICATION. THE 2NR CAN THEN STAND UP AND REFUSE TO SPEAK FOR INDIANS. THIS IS A ***BULLETPROOF*** STRATEGY, COURTESY OF THE GENIUSES AT TEMPLE WGLF. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grandpa 5 Report post Posted October 24, 2004 WGLF just made me spit my coffee all over my computer screen from laughing 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kritikingforlife 22 Report post Posted October 24, 2004 Solvency - can't prove that the UN will sponsor a pko in US India territory.Inherency - no genocide now Harms - Indians making billions from casinos and tax exemption K - you don't call them Native Americans T - effects as hell Sig - native americans have been suppressed, enslaved, genocidally killed, and worshipped by society, with no terminal impacts of any kind. DA - your plan kills Native American casinos, bankrupting economy DA - your plan hurts Native American sovereignty, NA backlash = civil war and secession Independent Voter - stupidity of case and the downfall of education The list kinda goes on on this... even the dumbest arguments could beat this aff. yeah this is a pretty bad neg strat...this almost encouraged me to run the aff if thats the best you could come up with. even though a lot of the wglf stuff was jokes, a lot of it was very helpful. for those of you who couldnt distinguish fact from jokes, what i think the general idea was is the folowing: counter-performance west georgia style args about the imp/explosion of the sun, timecube and robots fiat good myth of the drunken indian kritik speaking for others Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dziegler 1548 Report post Posted October 24, 2004 yeah this is a pretty bad neg strat...this almost encouraged me to run the aff if thats the best you could come up with. even though a lot of the wglf stuff was jokes, a lot of it was very helpful. for those of you who couldnt distinguish fact from jokes, what i think the general idea was is the folowing: counter-performance west georgia style args about the imp/explosion of the sun, timecube and robots fiat good myth of the drunken indian kritik speaking for others meh... I never said I endorsed those arguments... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grandpa 5 Report post Posted October 25, 2004 AND ONCE YOU GET TO ZIZEK, YOU LOSE. THEN YOU LOSE WHEN SOMEONE STANDS UP AND SAYS ANYTHING THAT ISN'T ASPEC. THEN YOU LOSE BECAUSE YOU GAIN A REPUTATION FOR BEING STUPID. Exactly. This thing is the biggest turkey ever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WGLF 516 Report post Posted October 25, 2004 yeah this is a pretty bad neg strat...this almost encouraged me to run the aff if thats the best you could come up with. even though a lot of the wglf stuff was jokes, a lot of it was very helpful. for those of you who couldnt distinguish fact from jokes, what i think the general idea was is the folowing: counter-performance west georgia style args about the imp/explosion of the sun, timecube and robots fiat good myth of the drunken indian kritik speaking for others UMM, NO. ESPECIALLY THE FIAT GOOD PART AND THE PART ABOUT "COUNTER-PREFORMANCE" (WHATEVER THE FUCK THAT IS). SPEAKING OF SPEAKING FOR OTHERS, PLEASE REFRAIN FROM EXPOSING THE "MEANING" OF OUR POSTS. EITHER THEY DON'T HAVE ANY (MOST OF THE POSTS), OR THEY DO (BUT YOU GET IT WRONG) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shes legal in dog years 1000000038 Report post Posted October 25, 2004 You would have thought someone would have said Fism by now..damn. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WGLF 516 Report post Posted October 25, 2004 OH MY GAWD! SHUT THE FUCK UP Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Startop 270 Report post Posted October 25, 2004 you have a problem here. Either a. your actor is the UN, whiich violates the resolution unless you have an effectually topical case. or b. The U.S. is your actor and sets up a HUGE self-determination link. also, establishing new pkos arent topical Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shes legal in dog years 1000000038 Report post Posted October 25, 2004 Just to let you know..no matter what case u fucking run...T IS GOING TO BER RAN. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Startop 270 Report post Posted October 25, 2004 oh well in THAT case... "pulls out critical disarm* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shes legal in dog years 1000000038 Report post Posted October 25, 2004 I convinced some novi that war dolphins could be topical.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Startop 270 Report post Posted October 25, 2004 um....congradulations? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shes legal in dog years 1000000038 Report post Posted October 25, 2004 my point.anything could br ran..example: Loisville. Racism aff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites