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What do u guys think about the legalization of marijuana? I know that the main argument for the legalization is for medicinal purposes, but I haven't really found a good negative position. Can anyone help me out?

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if smoked it has all negative side effects of inhaling smoke... other than that if you are looking for a negative post legalization you have no more adverse side effects than cigarettes and alcohol... no less... but no more.

 

you could make a solid argument that it would create and opium parlor mentality in this country, or that it would lead further legalizations... i would only argue the former, and even that is a stretch.

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1. Marijuana isnt addictive... cigarettes are..

 

2. Marijuana is more fun... ( from what i hear, i just wish i was cool enough to be a pot head lol )

 

3. Marijuana is illegal... cigarettesss arent..

 

 

 

as of right now, i can only see one thing wrong with it.. its illegal

 

and then there is the medical issue as well.. but honestly we learned from the best teacher on earth who got fired from some gay shit.. that if ur going to try something.. if u have to choose between alcohol and weed, choose the weed.. so if its better than beer and cigaretees then y not go ahead and make it legal?

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listen, retards. especially Floydian. weed isn't as harmful as the LEGAL tobacco products in this country, which cause exponentially more deaths than marijuana. Tobacco, as said before is addictive, marijuana isn't. Marijuana's only deaths are caused by heart failure and driving high, which are infinitesimal compared to tobbacco or alchohol. Marijuana additionally, hasn't been proven as a gateway drug in ANY scientific study.Finally, overconsumption of marijuana doesn't cause death. ever. it is impossible to smoke or ingest the amount of marijuana it would take to kill a person (over five pounds).

 

P.S. If you are going to reply to this with "you.are.an.idiot." include some fucking warrants this time failure.

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whoah, whoah, chill out you fucking neo-wannabe hippie. i was being sarcastic. you know absolutely nothing on the topic, neither does hyposhot. that's why you're both fucking morons.

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floydian, you say they dont know anything, however you dont have any evidence either, and first hand evidence (which im assuming is why youre so convinced youre right) is nothing to go on.

 

"marijuana kills people"

 

...yea. unless you have evidence for that, shove it.

 

marijuana is as close to harmless as a drug can possibly be, and the problems that admittadly do stem from it are SOLEY because of its legal status.

 

if pot was legal, it would be even safer.

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whoah, whoah, chill out you fucking neo-wannabe hippie. i was being sarcastic. you know absolutely nothing on the topic, neither does hyposhot. that's why you're both fucking morons.

lets all take a moment to bask in the idiocy and blatant contradictions present in Floydians last entry. Oh, that feels good.

 

Now, look at it like this bitch. calling me a neo hippie wannabe doesnt discredit me-thats an ad-hominem fallacy. Noone cares you were being sarcastic cuz ure still acting like a dumbass. Telling me that I know nothing on the topic doesnt awnser an arguement I've made, in fact-its concession since you havent awnsered ONE OF THEM. I challenge u to answer one-go ahead, stop using a sheild of ad-homs and make a fucking arguement or stop posting.

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floydian, you say they dont know anything, however you dont have any evidence either, and first hand evidence (which im assuming is why youre so convinced youre right) is nothing to go on.

 

"marijuana kills people"

 

...yea. unless you have evidence for that, shove it.

 

marijuana is as close to harmless as a drug can possibly be, and the problems that admittadly do stem from it are SOLEY because of its legal status.

 

if pot was legal, it would be even safer.

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Floydian, give a fucking arg before u call someone a moron

medical studies have indicated a couple of facts about marijuana:

LOOK at his post first...

i was being sarcastic.
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you are all so fucking clueless, it makes me laugh. shit dude, you guys have smoked weed, shit you're hardcore.

 

if any of you knew ANYTHING about marijuana, you'd know that although it isn't physically addictive, it is one of the most psychologically addictive drugs. if any of you knew ANYTHING about marijuana, you'd know that marijuana contains over 400 chemicals, most of which are carcinogenic. marijuana contains 50-70% more cancer causing chemicals than tobacco. and twice as much tar. respitory disorders, reproductive problems, and immune system deficiencies are linked to marijuana use. marijuana use has contributed to more motor vehicle accidents than any other drug except alcohol. while most mental damage done by marijuana isn't long-term, the short term effects on your brain are adverse. they disrupt nerve cells in the part of the brain where your memory is formed, prolonged use is linked to apathy, mood swings, lack of ability to carry out long term plans, and a decline in school/work performance.

 

good job, though. keep wearing tye-dye and pretending like you're some kind of rebel.

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and yet there isn't one good reason it should be legal. marijuana has no medicinal use. it's a schedule I drug, which means it has a high potential for abuse, no currently accepted medical use in the u.s., and no safe level of use under medical supervision. any idiot already knows that thc, the most active ingredient in marijuana (and the only drug with any medicinal quality), is already legal in a pill form called marinol.

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Liberty and the Pursuit of Forbidden Fruit

by David Jay Brown

 

"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."
—HL Mencken

The desire to recreationally ingest psychoactive drugs is deeply rooted in our biological nature. The hunger to get high is as natural as the desire to eat, sleep, and procreate.

 

Young children have an instinctive drive to change their ordinary state of awareness, as evidenced by the delight that they take in spinning around and around in circles to produce a state of dizziness. According to UCLA psychopharmacologist Ron Siegel, every human culture, and every class of animal, make use of certain plants for their psychoactive properties. In fact, Siegel believes that "the desire for intoxication is actually a fourth drive, as unstoppable as hunger, thirst, and sex."

 

Our DNA is programmed to grow brains that crave intoxicating plants and potions. The molecular components of the intoxicants that we use fit so snugly and precisely into our neural receptors that it seems as though our brains were specifically wired to receive them. This symbiotic, co-evolutionary relationship between animal brains and plant intoxicants is as ancient as the birds and the bees. This is why the War on Drugs in America is really a war against human nature.

 

The War on Drugs (or rather, the War on Some Drugs, as Robert Anton Wilson more aptly puts it) is a fascist attempt to control human behavior by stigmatizing and punishing people for following one of their most natural instincts—to do what feels good. The U.S. government uses Machiavellian scare tactics to fuel the Drug War, because they know that fear is what motivates most of human behavior. The Vatican, the Mafia, street gangs and world governments all recognize this fact, and have learned how to terrorize people to their advantage.

 

Science fiction author Philip K. Dick summed it up best when he said, "Rome never fell." Religious orders still emanate from the Vatican, the Military-Industrial Complex still runs the world, and most people are still wage-slaves to the ruling class. Those in control know that scaring people is the easiest way to manipulate them. The scare tactics work even better if people are duped into thinking that what the government is doing is actually for their own good.

 

The Drug War is an organized attempt to scapegoat and persecute racial minorities, inner-city youth, lower economic classes, left-wing intellectuals, and rebellious government protesters—similar to how the Nazis persecuted the Jews, or the Witch Hunts persecuted pagan women. The Drug War is primarily waged upon low-income minorities who use marijuana.

 

Superintendent of the New Jersey State Police reveals

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space.plthe racist nature of the war on some drugs.

 

The parallels between the Jewish Holocaust and the American War on Drugs are particularly striking. In Nazi Germany, one by one, every activity in which Jews exclusively took part was made illegal—such as making or selling kosher food. The Nuremberg Act of 1933 was a sweeping set of laws targeted against the Jews, gypsies, and homosexuals. These "undesirables" were carted off because they broke laws targeted against them—just as drug users, and those who supply them, are thrown in prison today.

 

When the federal government says that America has a 70 million person drug abuse problem, they're trying to make it sound like the streets are littered with heroin addicts. But what that figure really means is 65 million people have used marijuana, and 5 million have used heroin or cocaine. They don't count alcohol and tobacco (which kill far more people every year than all illegal drugs combined) because they are legal, i.e. the drugs that they peddle.

 

The feds are talking about an illegal drug "problem". They use the number of people who have smoked the giggly cannabis flowers to beef up their statistics, so it seems like America is in the midst of a terrible heroin and crack epidemic, when its not. To the U.S. government, all use of illegal substances is defined as abuse.

 

The entire Drug War is founded on unconstitutional principles. There is nothing in the U.S. Constitution that allows for the government to imprison people for using certain substances under the pretence that it is to save them from harming themselves. In the early part of the last century the government still understood this. That is why they had to actually add amendments onto the constitution to initiate and repeal alcohol prohibition.

 

Many historians speculate that marijuana prohibition began because hemp products were seen as competitive to Du Pont financially, or because it was an easy way to scapegoat Mexican immigrants. The hilarious propaganda film that the government made in the Thirties—Reefer Madness—leads me to believe that, even then, they were also aware of the association between marijuana use and youth rebellion.

 

Whatever the reason why they made marijuana illegal, how the government did it is even more unbelievable. By passing the Marijuana Tax Act in 1937 they required that anyone who bought or sold marijuana had to purchase tax stamps—yet the government didn't issue any marijuana tax stamps, so there was no way to obtain them. If you had marijuana and no tax stamps, then you were under arrest. Can you believe that people actually fell for this? The Marijuana Tax Act was eventually ruled unconstitutional, however, that didn't stop the determined drug warriors.

 

In 1972, when Richard Nixon was in the White House, he tried to figure out how to reduce the number of Vietnam war demonstrators that were giving him such a headache. He made the connection that many demonstrators were getting high on pot, and had a brainstorm—why not simply arrest them for their marijuana use?

 

Even though the medical research team, that he himself had appointed, recommended that they decriminalize cannabis, Nixon dramatically increased the restrictions on it (through some magical revision of the inter-state commerce-clause, that makes even less logical sense that the unconstitutional Marijuana Tax act). With the exception of Jimmy Carter, every president since Nixon has steadily escalated the Drug War.

 

By every measure the 28-year Drug War has failed to slow down drug use or the availability of drugs. More people are currently in American prisons than ever before in U.S. history, and more than half of the prisoners are there for non-violent drug offences, yet illegal drugs are more available than ever before. Police corruption and gang violence are currently reaching record highs.

 

Our hard-earned constitutional rights to privacy are gradually being taken away, and our increasingly-Orwellian government is spying on us more and more. The Bill of Rights has become virtually worthless. Police routinely storm into people's homes, wrestle the occupants to the ground at gunpoint, and search their homes for drugs. Many innocent people have been killed in this process. According to Steve Dasbach, the Libertarian party's national director, 140,000 people have died because of the Drug War. In addition, countless lives have been ruined and many families destroyed.

 

The federal government is currently spending over twenty billion dollars a year on the Drug War, and that doesn't include state budgets, which are billions more. While Congress quibbles over a few million dollars for Medicare and Medicaid, no one on Capital Hill even questions the staggering Drug War budget. Remember, every dollar spent on the Drug War is going into somebody's bank account.

 

The Drug War is also preventing many students from getting an education. The 1998 Higher Education Act disqualifies young people for financial aid for college if they've ever been convicted of marijuana possession—but not if they've been convicted of rape, robbery or manslaughter.

 

Now, if the government was truly interested in helping young people with drug problems, one would think that they would encourage them to get an education, rather than prevent it. This is similar to the way that the Nazis tried to prevent the Jews from gaining power in Germany. I suspect that the government is afraid of educated pot smokers. What other explanation could there be? Rapists and even murders can still get financial aid for college.

 

Perhaps the most insidious of Washington's Drug War crimes is their attempt to take away our right to free speech. The so-called "Methamphetamine Anti-Proliferation Act", sponsored by senators Dianne Feinstein and Orrin Hatch, would abolish the First Amendment, and make it a crime to communicate certain information about illegal drugs.

 

The bill, HR. 2987, would make it a federal felony to publish, link a web site to, or even talk about certain factual data having to do with drugs, drug culture, or drug paraphernalia. In addition, the firstprovision in the "Methamphetamine Anti-Proliferation Act" would loosen the rules governing police searches. It would permit the police to search people's residence, vehicle, or workplace and take "intangible evidence" (such as making a copy of your computer's hard drive) without telling them. The Senate passed this bill unanimously in November of 1999. As of this writing, it is being considered by two House committees. If Congress passes this bill, and it becomes law, simply telling someone how to use or grow marijuana would become a crime punishable by ten years in prison. Saying, "put that in your pipe and smoke it," would become a major criminal offense.

 

The first amendment to the constitution is the most important of all; freedom of speech is supposed to be what distinguishes a free country from a fascist regime. Thomas Jefferson would be rolling in his grave if he knew what going on. Our founding fathers had originally intended for the U.S. federal government to have very limited power. Capital Hill was put in place to protect the states in a time of war, and to settle inter-state commerce disputes. That's it. A state was supposed to be a sovereign entity. The federal government has become the very monster that our founding fathers tried to prevent.

 

The Drug War, which began in 1972* (*Timothy Leary said that the War on Drugs actually began in Eden, when Jehovah busted Adam and Eve for eating from the tree of Forbidden Knowledge, and exiled them from paradise.), has lasted longer than any other war in U.S. history. I'm sure that future generations will view the Drug War as one of the worst injustices in human history, right up there with slavery and concentration camps. Can it possibly get any worse?

 

Bobby Moak, a representative from Mississippi, introduced a bill which, if it becomes law, would provide legislation for the removal of a body part on anyone found guilty of possessing marijuana. A questionnaire currently making the rounds in Congress includes the question: "Do you favor the death penalty for drug trafficking?" Darryl Gates, the former Los Angeles police chief, said that he thought marijuana users should be executed. Can you believe all this intense hatred towards people who smoke little green and red flowers that, at worst, make them watch cartoons and giggle?

 

Why doesn't the U.S. government ever consider changing its hard-line policy on Schedule I drugs like marijuana, crack, and heroin? Because harm reduction and reducing drug use was never their real intention, as evidenced by the CIA's well-documented involvement in heroin and cocaine trafficking. The government's real intention has been to frighten and intimidate people. And by that measure, the Drug War has been a huge success. That is why, even though numerous states have passed medical marijuana initiatives, possession of the gentle healing herb still remains a federal crime in the same league as murder and rape.

 

Marijuana users are probably the most persecuted minority on the planet. There are currently several hundred million marijuana users worldwide in custody in more than a hundred nations. Former High Times editor Peter Gorman said, "There is no other group, no religious organization, no single color or people, who are persecuted in such numbers in so many different places anywhere on the globe."

 

What is the logic behind the Drug War supposed to be anyway? That these forbidden plants and potions are so dangerous and so evil that if you agree to use one then you embody that evil? Why is the U.S. government so adamant about maintaining their increasingly-ludicrous position on marijuana? Because the Drug War is a sinister political hoax that serves four important purposes.

 

  1. It is a way to persecute racial minorities. The Drug War disproportionately imprisons blacks and Hispanics. A Rutgers University statistician, who surveyed drivers and arrests on the New Jersey turnpike, reported that, while fewer than 5 percent of the cars on the turnpike had both out-of-state plates and were occupied by blacks, 80 percent of those stopped and arrested for drugs were out-of-state blacks. According to the Bureau of Justice statistics only 11 percent of America's illicit drug users are black, yet blacks account for 37 percent of those arrested for drug violations.
     
     
     
  2. It raises money for law enforcement—through seizures of bank accounts, cars and property. It also provides a way of charging higher-income tax-payers to imprison lower-income citizens. The privately-owned prison industry charges tax-payers approximately $22,000 a year per prisoner.
     
     
     
  3. It helps to eliminate competition with legal pharmaceuticals and legal recreational drugs. The Drug War has grown into a hugely successful capitalistic enterprise, benefiting the privately-run prison industry, the military, the urine testers, manufacturers of wiretaps and other spy-technologies, prosecutors, defense attorneys, politicians and police, as well as the tobacco, alcohol, and pharmaceutical companies. These are the very corporations that fund the Partnership for a Drug-Free America and DARE programs—which, like the Nazi programs, teach children to turn in their parents.
     
     
     
  4. The American Government is also well aware of the association between marijuana use and the tendency for people to think for themselves and question authority.
     

People who smoke marijuana tend to think independently, to stray from the mainstream, to protest wars and do other rebellious things that the government doesn't like. This is why Nixon originally declared a war on marijuana in 1972. According to Paul Krassner, a U.S. government-sponsored anti-drug booklet, with a foreword by Senator Orrin Hatch, informs parents that among the warning signs that their children are using marijuana and other drugs is "excessive preoccupation with social causes, race relations, environmental issues, etc."

 

The late comedian Bill Hicks said that "not only should marijuana be legal, it should be mandatory." I almost agree. From what I can tell, pot tends to make people happier, more peaceful, more sensitive, more thoughtful and more creative. There's no question that it makes people laugh more. Too much of anything can be unhealthy, but I don't think that most people are getting enough ganja, as evidenced by the fact that the majority of people tend to take themselves too seriously. No where is this problem more evident than with our own government officials. Perhaps if they inhaled, they wouldn't be so damn mean.

 

I believe that THC—the primary psychoactive component of cannabis—is an essential brain nutrient, necessary for proper psychological health. The brain produces its own natural version of THC called anandimide (Sanskrit for "inner bliss"). People who are especially attracted to marijuana may be suffering from deficiencies of this feel-good neurotransmitter. As a result of the Drug War, many people are simply not getting their proper daily requirements of this important brain chemical, and too many of us are suffering from what self-help author Peter McWilliams calls the "pleasure-deficit disorder".

 

A U.C. Berkeley study showed that the high school students who were the most well-adjusted socially were not the kids who completely abstained from marijuana, or the kids who smoked it continuously—rather, it was the kids who smoked grass moderately. This was a study that didn't get too much exposure in the mainstream media, like the many studies which demonstrate marijuana's unusual safety, and bountiful utility for treating a wide spectrum of medical problems.

 

Drug Czar Barry McCaffrey is lying when he says that there is no scientific evidence for marijuana's medical properties, as he couldn't possibly be that misinformed. Politicians who repeat over and over that more research needs to be done before marijuana can be considered a safe effective medication are simply being dishonest. Numerous carefully controlled studies have demonstrated that marijuana can safely and effectively treat the nausea that accompanies chemotherapy, AIDS wasting syndrome, glaucoma, epilepsy, chronic pain, and muscle spasm disorders.

 

Research at the U.S. National Institute of Health, and in Israel, has also demonstrated that THC—like vitamins C and E—is a powerful antioxidant that actually prevents cancer and brain damage. THC has been shown to have tumor-reducing qualities in several studies. A 1994 project by the U.S. National Toxicology Program specifically sought to induce cancers in mice and rats by shooting them up with high doses of THC for extended periods of their lives. However, the results showed unmistakably that the treated animals had significantly greater resistance to tumor development, and lived longer than the untreated animals.

 

A study done by the California Division of Motor Vehicles in 1986 showed that, unlike alcohol, people driving under the influence of marijuana tended to drive more cautiously. Some people even drove better when they were high. After an extensive international study, the World Health Organization declared that marijuana is much less dangerous than alcohol or tobacco. Isn't it funny how these studies don't often make it into the mainstream media?

 

Our government wants people to believe that marijuana causes brain damage, and acts a "gateway drug", leading children down the devil's path to hard-core addictive drugs. There is absolutely no scientific evidence for this "gate-way drug" myth. Every study ever done on marijuana confirms that it doesn't lead to harder drugs, as well as how non-toxic it is.

 

Marijuana is probably the safest psychoactive drug known. In all of human history, there is not one reported death from a marijuana overdose. Yet the DEA is willing to pay television stations millions of dollars (of our money) to alter the scripts of their shows, so as to reflect their malicious propaganda, and tell us how "dangerous" it is. Of course, only the politicians can save us from this horrible menace.

 

Will the government ever stop its insanity? Probably not by themselves. Only when public outcry reaches a high enough pitch will they be forced to concede to the will of the people. Because the younger pot-smoking generations are gradually replacing the older alcohol-tobacco generations the end of the Drug War is inevitable. When that finally happens the viscously oppressive system will crumble like the Berlin Wall. On that glorious day we can all celebrate by sparking up a doobie. A new era of peace, freedom and tolerance will be ushered in. Then we can really start having fun.

 

References

 

Baum, D., Smoke and Mirrors: The War on Drugs and the Politics of Failure. Little, Brown and Co., New York, 1996.

 

McWilliams, P., Ain't Nobody's Business if You Do: The Absurdity of Consensual Crimes in a Free Society. Prelude Press, Los Angeles, 1993.

 

Siegel, R., Intoxication: Life in Pursuit of Artificial Paradise. E. P. Dutton, New York, 1989.

 

 

 

Zimmer, L. and Morgan, J., Marijuana Myths Marijuana Facts. The Lindesmith Center, New York, 1997.

Special thanks to Robert Anton Wilson and Peter McWilliams, who kept me up-to-date on the proceedings of the Drug War through their informative internet news-groups. In-depth interviews with these two extraordinary individuals can be found on my Web site: www.levity.com/mavericks

 

This essay orginally appeared in Rebels and Devils (New Falcon, 2000). David Jay Brown is the author of two science fiction novels -- Brainchild (New Falcon, 1988) and Virus: The Alien Strain (New Falcon, 1999). He is also the co-author of two collections of interviews with controversial, cutting-edge scientists and artists-- Mavericks of the Mind (Crossing Press, 1993) and Voices from the Edge (Crossing Press, 1995).

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hahaha. quoting bill hicks. that's funny. and yet, i still am missing any reason at all throughout that long article to legalize pot. thc is LEGAL. thus this throws out any argument for the legalization of marijuana. why legalize marijuana and get the 400+ carinogenic chemicals, when the only good chemical is legal already?

 

and furthmore, this doesn't escape many of the underlying facts surrounding marijuana use. i.e.; how marijuana causes the second most traffic accidents of any drug only behind alcohol.

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http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/Misc/driving/Marijuana%20-Alcohol%20Driving%20Study%20--%20DOT%20HS%20808%20939.htm

 

Prevention Primer: An Encyclopedia of Alcohol, Tobacco and Other Drug Prevention Terms. 1993. Rockville, Md.: U.S. Center for Substance Abuse Prevention.

 

Marijuana. 1997. Lansing, Mich.: Michigan Resource Center.

 

Soderstrom, C. A.; Dischinger, P. C.; Kerns, T. I.; and Trifillis, A. L. Marijuana and other drug use among automobile and motorcycle drivers treated at a trauma center. Accid. Anal. Prey. 25: 131-5, 1995.

U.S. Census Bureau and Monitoring the Future data from O'Malley, Patrick and Johnston, Lloyd, "Unsafe Driving by High School Seniors: National Trends from 1976 to 2001 in Tickets and Accidents After Alcohol, Marijuana and Other Illegal Drugs," Journal of Studies on Alcohol, (64: 305-12), May 2003.

 

there's a few.

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Are you implying that the assumption is everything should be illegal unless there is a reason to make it legal? Driving while high can be illegal, but that is not a reason why if you smoke a joint in your house you should be arrested. The federal government should stay the fuck out of my business. Hell, even make its sale illegal if you want. Why is growing it and smoking it illegal? It only harms yourself, and there are so many other things that are infinitely worse for you, why make this particular thing illegal?

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the logic that there are things so much worse is just as bad. the burden of proof should not be on why it shouldn't be legalized, the burden of proof is on why it should be legalized. and really, there isn't any inherent good reason to legalize it. sure, it's fun, but there is no value coming out of a legalization effort. sure, i don't agree that the federal government should be in your business, but it isn't your option to decide if they should or shouldn't be. "why make this particular thing illegal?" they aren't making anything illegal. it is illegal. i have yet to see the inherently awful things that have happened because of prohibition. so, like i said, the burden of proof is not on the government, it is on the pro-legalization effort to give good reasoning as to why it needs to be legalized.

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It sends people to prison, ruining their lives. The impact of going to jail is much worse than the impact that comes from smoking pot. Hell, if you think drugs are bad, jails are a much worse place for drugs. It's ridiculous to imprison someone over something that is simply a personal choice and only affects them.

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it isn't your duty to determine the laws. as a citizen of this country, your duty is to obey the laws put forth by the government. if you don't want to obey them, then you are willingly putting yourself in the position to suffer the consequences for breaking the laws. people know the laws, ignorance is no reason to break them, and will get no sympathy from me for their own idiotic behavior. prisons don't ruin people's lives, your decisions do. moving on... the argument that drug use only affects the user is ignorant and wrong. most people who use drugs tend to use this as a scapegoat for their own destructive habits. it's stupid. if you think drug use only affects yourself, then go to your parents, your wife, your kids, whoever your family may be, and tell them what drugs you use, on what timeframe you use them, and how long you've been using (with honesty), and then come back and say that your use only affects yourself. people tend to forget the stress, anxiety, and emotional pain that their use can put on their family that truthfully care about them. do you want to bite some more ignorance?

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do you want to bite some more ignorance?

 

 

 

Hell yeah.

 

I will begin here.

The link you gave was blocked by the filter here, sorry.

 

Random, semi-coherent points.

 

1)I would like to point out that speed is the #1 contributing factor in all motor vehicle accidents. And why would driving while high be treated any differently than driving under the influence of alcohol?

 

 

2)You say it is our duty to follow the governments laws? Should African-Americans have just shut-up and gotten in line with the segregation, the jim crowe laws, the legislated racism of the time? Was getting brutally attacked by Alabama police dogs the fault of their "own idiotic behavior"? What about women? When it was illegal for them to vote, should they have shut-up and gone back into the kitchen, or was it right for them to challenge the unjust, oppressive laws that they lived under.

 

3)You continually say 'drugs,' we are not talking about legalizing all drugs, just marijuana.

 

4)Scapegoating... what about the million other destructive behaviors that people subject themselves to as a result of their circumstances. Some people deal with stress by eating alot, eating nothing, crawling inside of a bottle, self mutilation, abusing themselves or others, or using drugs. The individual's problems are not caused by marijuana, it is only a crutch, should we ban razorblades, alcohol, all-you-can-eat buffets, just because people an use them to hurt themselves?

 

5)Again with the effects-others-around-them argument, see #4 and understand that all of those activities can affect family and friends as well, as can seemingly admirable things like dedication to a job.

 

6)Also I disagree with your beliefs. I believe that the onus should be on the USFG when it tells us we are no longer free to do something.

 

 

Would you like to bite a little more pineapple?

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