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That T violation should be run as a CP, not as a T violation, it's actually not bad as a CP. There's significant evidence indicating that will is a sort of guarantee, and taht this is bad for debate and society...wierd but pretty damn good.

 

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It might have been Ankur, I believe it was, who posted a rough should v. will topicality/theory violation.

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That T violation should be run as a CP, not as a T violation, it's actually not bad as a CP. There's significant evidence indicating that will is a sort of guarantee, and taht this is bad for debate and society...wierd but pretty damn good.

 

1. That's a topical counterplan, which I could say is illegitimate.

2. That still legitimates counterwarrants, which are bad.

3. It's whole rez, which means I get to run a case turn on the SAFE act and I win because I've proven that there's an aff in the rez that isn't net beneficial. Even if you win that counterwarrants are legit, I can crush you with them. So you're either theoretically objectionable or you're substantively not net-beneficial.

4. Perm - do plan and the text of the resolution. This shitty counterplan is neither functionally nor textually competitive.

Perm text is "The United States Federal Government should [plan text] and substantially decrease its authority to either detain without charge or search without probable cause.

Alternatively, Perm is "do the CP," functional comp good

5. PICs bad. Disp/Condo bad. Vague fiat bad. CP flaw: no advocacy for anything means you get no solvency.

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I have run that teh plan text says will/shall and not will and won on it. I consitently run half-rez, aka subs without material quals as there are only two cases...we run this on teh national circuit and beat decent teams. Some other fun ones here and tere that i can't think of too

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1. That's a topical counterplan, which I could say is illegitimate.

 

it depends on the judge as to wetherits legit or not, because if it creates debate, then some judges allow it.

 

My funniest T: substantially=tangible

 

Violation: Affs plan has not been passed yet, so it is not tangible.

 

Standards: Cant remember(ive only run this T once)

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My funniest T: substantially=tangible

 

Violation: Affs plan has not been passed yet, so it is not tangible.

 

Standards: Cant remember(ive only run this T once)

 

Heh. That's kind of like T should = in the past.

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Actually, my biggest argument against that substantially argument is that substantially is modifying decrease, so the decrease in authority has to be tangible. I think that's a better argument, still weaker than others, but a lot better.

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someone ran a t -authority against us but instead of running voters they put impacts on it, i.e. "thus you can't solve econ downturn".. is this legit?

 

should = shall is by far my least favorite

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doesn't sub = without mat quals contradict itself. Its saying that you can't have any material qualifications but isn't 100% a material qualification?

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On the UN topic:

"Of" Violation

A. DEFINITION: "Of" means 1. Derived or coming from; originating at or from; customs of the South.

The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition

Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company.

 

B. VIOLATION: The definition “coming from,” shows that the subject following the word “of” is where the support derives from. In the resolution, we see “…support of United Nations Peacekeeping operations.” Meaning support that comes from the UN peacekeeping operations. The affirmative must clearly provide a plantext that has the UN PKOs increase support for the US.

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Either/or means both. I have it, it is really not that horrible. It has a card from a guy who writes on the idiosyncrisies of the English language. He says that is the word is placed before the either, it applies to both .

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My favorite is "should = past tense".

 

Not to mention that should is the "conditional tense", but the way the violation was structured, it was framed as the legislation had to already have happened.

 

Fairly absurd.

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An answer to its:

 

its=it is

 

The resolution is grammatically incorrect, therefore it does not apply, because the framers are psycho.

 

 

Its one of those gay-ass arguments like pen-spec, only worse and completely stupid.

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i never ran/went against this but it would be friggin hilarious if someone ran it:

Charge = demand payment

 

Violation: The affirmative does not increase the charging of money from detainees.

 

Topical plans:

The United States Federal Government should charge every detainee a dollar a day as rent for their cells.

 

The United States Federal Government should make all prisoners pay for their meals.

 

And so on, lol, that would be sooo hilarious

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originally posted by joekelly:

 

On this year's topic maybe "charge" = money. "federal government" isn't capitalized, so it means Germany -- one team ran that as their aff a few years back I'm told. This is my favorite definition on this year's topic though:

CHARGE MEANS THAT THE PLAN MUST ELECTROCUTE DETAINEES.

WordNet 2.0, 2003 [ By Princeton University p. http://www.dict.org/bin/Dict ]

 

charge

n 1: (criminal law) a pleading describing some wrong or offense;

"he was arrested on a charge of larceny" [syn: complaint]

2: the price charged for some article or service; "the

admission charge"

3: an assertion that someone is guilty of a fault or offence;

"the newspaper published charges that Jones was guilty of

drunken driving" [syn: accusation]

4: request for payment of a debt; "they submitted their charges

at the end of each month" [syn: billing]

5: a impetuous rush toward someone or something; "the

wrestler's charge carried him past his adversary"; "the

battle began with a cavalry charge"

6: the quantity of unbalanced electricity in a body (either

positive or negative) and construed as an excess or

deficiency of electrons; "the battery needed a fresh

charge" [syn: electric charge]

7: financial liabilities (such as a tax); "the charges against

the estate"

8: a person committed to your care; "the teacher led her

charges across the street"

9: attention and management implying responsibility for safety;

"he is in the care of a bodyguard" [syn: care, tutelage,

guardianship]

10: a special assignment that is given to a person or group; "a

confidential mission to London"; "his charge was deliver

a message" [syn: mission, commission]

11: a formal statement of a command or injunction to do

something; "the judge's charge to the jury" [syn: commission,

direction]

12: a quantity of explosive to be set off at one time; "this

cartridge has a powder charge of 50 grains" [syn: burster,

bursting charge, explosive charge]

13: the swift release of a store of affective force; "they got a

great bang out of it"; "what a boot!"; "he got a quick

rush from injecting heroin"; "he does it for kicks" [syn:

bang, boot, rush, flush, thrill, kick]

14: (psychoanalysis) the libidinal energy invested in some idea

or person or object; "Freud thought of cathexis as a

psychic analog of an electrical charge" [syn: cathexis]

15: heraldry consisting of a design or image depicted on a

shield [syn: bearing, heraldic bearing, armorial

bearing]

 

 

Actually the other definitions of charge above could be funny too, especially #13.

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funniest T ever hands down was on the oceans topic

 

protections means like condoms and shit.

 

priceless.

 

i think i might have hit a case like that on that topic.

i know i did last year - case sent condoms and anti-AIDs videotapes to the UN.

 

another funny T for last year was "support" = bras.

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