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#1 EatYoFetus

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 04:49 PM

Could someone explain the function of these arguments? How should I use them?
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#2 Walter Russell Mead

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 05:04 PM

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Your name is offensive to pretty much everyone.
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#3 codyarmstrong

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 05:25 PM

Your name is offensive to pretty much everyone.


Fetusi have been proven to be most nutritious.
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#4 EatYoFetus

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 05:27 PM

Stem cells taste amazing! Its like they pop in your mouth.
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#5 codyarmstrong

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 06:07 PM

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However...the fact that you used "roll" instead of "role," is a tad bit offensive
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#6 OriginalRawrcat

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 06:23 PM

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#7 Chaos

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 07:28 PM

I like my ballots folded, actually. Scroll style is too archaic for my taste. Plus folded ballots are more compact, which makes it easier to carry them in my pocket.
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#8 codyarmstrong

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 07:51 PM

I like my ballots folded, actually. Scroll style is too archaic for my taste. Plus folded ballots are more compact, which makes it easier to carry them in my pocket.


I see what you did there. I had to read it twice, but I eventually got there.
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#9 LilMax

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 08:47 PM

It's a meta-level framing issue that says how the judge should evaluate the round.
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#10 RyeZOAM

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 05:10 PM

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It's a meta-level framing issue that says how the judge should evaluate the round.


like if the role of the ballot is to eat fetuses, then the team that eats the most wins
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Posted 26 February 2012 - 06:26 PM

This:

It's a meta-level framing issue that says how the judge should evaluate the round.


Here is a little simpler (less jargon-filled explanation)

You mean role of the ballot.....it just tells the judge how to evaluate arguments. Usually its used for:
1. Critique good framework (and answering that)
2. Theory Args/Topicality

But its primarily for #1. It could also be used for ethics arguments or arguments which change the assumptions of what debate is about or how the judge should weigh the round.
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Posted 27 February 2012 - 07:43 PM

Your name is offensive to pretty much everyone.


yeah, abortion jokes aren't funny. i'm surprised you haven't been flagged or something.
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#13 Unico

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 07:47 PM

yeah, abortion jokes aren't funny. i'm surprised you haven't been flagged or something.

I for one enjoy a good dead baby.


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Posted 27 February 2012 - 08:15 PM

like if the role roll of the ballot is to eat fetuses, then the team that eats the most wins

fix'd
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Posted 28 February 2012 - 03:56 PM

The role of the ballot argument are the values of which the tab judges uses to evaluate who wins.

Normally, the role of the ballot is based on a utilitarian framework, so the judge votes for the team who saves the most lives.
But kritikal teams like to change the role of the ballot to fit their critique - such as the role of the ballot is to vote on "the team that solves for western metaphysics the best" or "the team that solves biopower better." If the team wins the role of the ballot argument, your arguments are likely irrelevant, unless you can really spin them to fit the new value system better than your opponents.

If you want a deeper explanation, feel free to email me at hahaiwin911@gmail.com. :'D
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#16 Chaos

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 04:03 PM

If you want a deeper explanation, feel free to email me at hahaiwin911@gmail.com. :'D


lol u missspeled hawaiian


like if the role of the ballot is to eat fetuses, then the team that eats the most wins


I think this actually might be the most popular post on cross-x, which says a lot about the current quality of the site.
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#17 OriginalRawrcat

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 07:01 PM

I think this actually might be the most popular post on cross-x, which says a lot about the current quality of the site.


Indeed
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#18 Dr. Fox On Socks

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 04:02 AM

lol u missspeled hawaiian

You misspelled "misspelled" and Hawai'ian.
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Posted 29 February 2012 - 01:25 PM

lol also u
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