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#1 enechols

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Posted 18 March 2011 - 10:15 AM

What is Neoliberalism? and whats the difference between both theories?
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#2 Lil J Eezus

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Posted 28 March 2011 - 03:42 PM

great question, can someone help with this?
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#3 InTheFlesh

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Posted 28 March 2011 - 03:51 PM

Well, they're spelled differently, and theoretically they're pronounced differently.
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Posted 28 March 2011 - 03:56 PM

One of them is good and one of them is bad.
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Posted 28 March 2011 - 03:59 PM

moved to Critiques
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Posted 28 March 2011 - 03:59 PM

They're both related to Critiques

Edit: Now I'm going to help them. Capitalism is http://en.wikipedia....wiki/Capitalism and neoliberalism is http://en.wikipedia....i/Neoliberalism, somehow wikipedia always helps with these things.
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#7 OriginalRawrcat

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Posted 28 March 2011 - 04:07 PM

One of them is good and one of them is bad.


False: They both suck
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Posted 28 March 2011 - 04:12 PM

False: They both suck


capitalism good
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#9 OriginalRawrcat

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Posted 28 March 2011 - 04:15 PM

capitalism good


Can I get fries with that unwarranted assertion?

What is it that makes capitalism good?
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#10 thechillsauce

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Posted 28 March 2011 - 04:18 PM

Because it allows most people an equal chance to work hard and become successful
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Posted 28 March 2011 - 04:18 PM

Because it allows most people an equal chance to work hard and become successful


Oh shit.

You just opened up the flood gates
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#12 thechillsauce

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Posted 28 March 2011 - 04:19 PM

Oh shit.

You just opened up the flood gates


Crap

From your reaction I'm scared
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#13 OriginalRawrcat

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Posted 28 March 2011 - 04:20 PM

Most people?

You're openly admitting that its benefits are only accessible to an included group?
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Posted 28 March 2011 - 04:25 PM

People who are willing to work hard for success, will do so and can become successful
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#15 OriginalRawrcat

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Posted 28 March 2011 - 04:31 PM

People who are willing to work hard for success, will do so and can become successful


So you're saying that the 8 year old thai kid who works in a sweatshop can one day own nike if he works as hard as he can for that 50 cents a day?

Or that the people forced to mine diamonds in africa will one day mine enough that they'll be able to own that mining business instead of the bosses who economically hold down the area?
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Posted 28 March 2011 - 04:34 PM

So you're saying that the 8 year old thai kid who works in a sweatshop can one day own nike if he works as hard as he can for that 50 cents a day?

Or that the people forced to mine diamonds in africa will one day mine enough that they'll be able to own that mining business instead of the bosses who economically hold down the area?


In places where it is regulated, such as in America where there's such a thing as minimum wage, yes, I'm not talking about non-American capitalism, should have made that clear
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Posted 28 March 2011 - 04:38 PM

In places where it is regulated, such as in America where there's such a thing as minimum wage, yes, I'm not talking about non-American capitalism, should have made that clear


Oh, well okay. Then let's talk NAFTA if we're gonna talk about regulated american capitalism. Do you find it fair that NAFTA put hundreds of thousands of mexican farmers out of work because they couldn't compete with large US farms after NAFTA passed which subsequently led to increases in illegal immigration which has arguably led to a decrease of demand for US citizens to have blue collar jobs because they can't compete with the illegal immigrant wages?

Or on something more recent, is it fair for state governments to take away certain union rights?

Or is it fair that there still exist ghettos in which people are trapped in cycles of poverty because they can't break out of their subsistence lifestyle?

EDIT: Sorry about the huge run-on question. And I'll just ignore the implications of removing focus on third world nations trapped under the economic thumbs of "higher-class" nations.

Edited by The Debater Formerly Known As Rawrcat, 28 March 2011 - 04:42 PM.

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#18 thechillsauce

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Posted 28 March 2011 - 04:54 PM

Oh, well okay. Then let's talk NAFTA if we're gonna talk about regulated american capitalism. Do you find it fair that NAFTA put hundreds of thousands of mexican farmers out of work because they couldn't compete with large US farms after NAFTA passed which subsequently led to increases in illegal immigration which has arguably led to a decrease of demand for US citizens to have blue collar jobs because they can't compete with the illegal immigrant wages?

Or on something more recent, is it fair for state governments to take away certain union rights?

Or is it fair that there still exist ghettos in which people are trapped in cycles of poverty because they can't break out of their subsistence lifestyle?

EDIT: Sorry about the huge run-on question. And I'll just ignore the implications of removing focus on third world nations trapped under the economic thumbs of "higher-class" nations.


No system is every completely fair, to the first one, that wouldn't have happened if we had tighter borders, the 2nd one, wisconsin is taking away the unions rights to coerce workers into joining, which is fair I believe, and to the third there is often a difference between a subsistence lifestyle, and the lifestyle that is all too often seen in ghettos, unless of course the people have multiple children to feed as well, in which case it is a different story
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Posted 28 March 2011 - 04:55 PM

In places where it is regulated, such as in America where there's such a thing as minimum wage, yes, I'm not talking about non-American capitalism, should have made that clear


You, sir, are what we call "stupid".
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Posted 28 March 2011 - 04:58 PM

What's wrong with saying non-American capitalism? It would really help if instead of just calling me stupid, you tried to tell me what was wrong with what I said.
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